Which bandsaw?

[Kirk Allen]

[HaroldCR]

 Kirk added a photo showing the size difference between an LT40 WoodMizer, and our mill. Ours is the Green one.

[HaroldCR]

 Really need to sell this mill. Anyone
 I will post it in the For Sale Board.

[Mr Mom]

Only if i had the money.

Thanks Alot Mr Mom

[POC]

I've almost decided to go with the Wood Mizer LT15.  They are based out of Indianapolis, which is only 2 hrs from me.  And they have financing. 
Do you have financing Harold?   

[HaroldCR]

 With some down, anything is possible. 

[POC]

What about support?  You gonna fly up from CR to Indiana and fix this thing?
I really would (probably) buy it, if I could get it for the same as the new LT15.

[HaroldCR]

 What kind of vehicles do you own 

[POC]

We're actually selling our 2005 Ford Freestyle, I'll trade ya for it!
or a 99 Ford F-150 2x4.

[HaroldCR]

 You don't even HAVE vehicles. You got Fords. 

  What makes you even mention, that, for the price of a manual mill, you would "Probably" buy mine  

  I will just wait until you make your first post about BIG-Heavy-sore back- wish I had a hydraulic mill, then I will remind you of your token offer. 

  You act like you might saw for others. That'll get old, real quick.

  You actually think WoodMizer is going to send someone out to repair that LT15   If YOU can't do repairs, you don't need a mill. 

  Don't want to ruffle Kirk's feathers, but, you made the offer. 

[Kirk Allen]

Doesnt ruffle my feathers, I drive a Chevy! 

[POC]

I had a Sonoma and Blazer for sale, just sold the pair last week Harold.
I am quite capable of fixing about anything from tractors to computers. I didn't Wood Mizer would send someone to fix the mill, I was just making a joke.
I just stuck the "probably" in there so you wouldn't think it was definate.  As I told you, I don't have the money you want, but if I could get it for about $6K, I would think seriously about it.  I don't know you from Adam, so I don't know if I did buy it and had some problems that I could find you to ask you questions.  With a new mill at least I know how to contact someone to get some kind of answer.
I know your mill is bigger and better than what I'm looking at, but I'm good at making due with what I got, even if it is a little more work.
And who knows, maybe I will make some money, decide I need a bigger mill and will buy yours.  Right now, for the price it just isn't feasible.

[POC]

Got back from the National Farm Machinery Show in Louisville yesterday. It was my first chance to see the LT15 up close.  The whole show was inside, so they couldn't demonstrate, but I was able to turn some cranks and pull some levers.
Baker was also there, they only had one HUGE mill, I'm not sure what model it was, but it was a big one.
And along the way I ran into the Kasco mill.  I didn't even think about them being there with a mill, but they were.  It was a really nice little unit.  I don't remember the model #'s, but it was the $10K one.  It had electric head up/down and forward/rev.  I didn't really like the "oblong" log dogs.  I much more like something with a spike or sticker on it. The guy there was very nice and knowledgable.  But after comparing it to the LT28 at the Wood Mizer booth, it just looked little.  I think they only had 1 section of track, and the LT28 is up on wheels, maybe that is the difference.
Anyone here have a Kasco mill?
Kasco and Wood Mizer invited me to come to their places and cut some wood.  They said to call a day before or so to make sure they had logs and I could come and run some mills.

I've had one fellow mention that he'd like some cedar cut from his place to line the ceiling of a new building he is putting up.  I figured about 2200 sq ft.  (36'x60' with a 2/12 ceiling).  I've also talked to him about buying the lumber from me for the construction of the building and the new house he is building.  Not sure I've got him sold on that yet.
What do you guys think about this:  I'm thinking about checking out the plans for this house and building, seeing what kind of lumber list he is expecting to need, then guarantee him that I will beat the local lumber yards on the price of lumber.  IF the total amount of money will pay for this mill, and get my kiln well on the way.  I don't think I'd go like half of the lumber yard prices, but the same or a little cheaper.  Even if I sell to him at what would normally be thought of  as "loss", but I get the mill paid for in the first job.  I think that would be a trade-off well worth it.
Then again, I've only built one house, and I don't remember how much I spent on lumber.  So maybe $7K in lumber is way over pricing!  Depends on the size of the house I suppose.
Thoughts?
Patrick

[Kirk Allen]

Its very difficult to beat lumber yard prices, especially with a small manual mill.

[POC]

I wouldn't consistently try to beat their prices.  I mean just on this one job, if it is going to be enough to pay for the mill.
I know I would be "losing" money, technically.

[Kirk Allen]

Other issues that may come into play is the local building codes and whether or not they require construction lumber to be grade stamped.  If they do that creates another issue. 

Do you have enough pine to cut out a house?  If your thinking of using hardwood be prepared for the contractors to get real upset after a day of trying to nail stuff together, depending on the hardwood used. 

If you have the pine to do and it would basically pay for your mill then I would say its a no brainer!

[POC]

We dont' have building codes.
I don't have pine, I was thinking of using Poplar.
I do have some pine, just not exactly sure how much.  I'll have to go cruise.

[mike p]

i got a kascosaw 2B it has 1/2" thick 4"x4" angle for a tough frame track
if you dont have a machine to lift logs up to mill bed then the kasco style is easy loading with the hand crank or i sometimes use the pu & chain to rool em up

[POC]

Well, I've just about decided on the LT-28, what with that deal they have now and everything.
$11,230 with the 25hp Kohler.

[I realize I said "I just about decided...LT-15..." a few posts up.]

[Kirk Allen]

I think you will be much happier with the bigger mill.  I think you can even get a hydraulic log loader option on that one for a reasonable price.   Try to BEG them to throw that in with the purchase. Never know what they might do!

I picked up the wood pellet stove for 70% below the normal price just by asking!