Post by: xlogger on August 19, 2016, 12:33:40 PM
Does anyone know of a used one for sale near NC?
Post by: furu on August 20, 2016, 01:57:50 AM
Post by: xlogger on August 20, 2016, 05:30:46 AM
Post by: 4x4American on September 05, 2016, 07:57:47 PM
Post by: xlogger on September 06, 2016, 04:54:11 AM
Post by: xlogger on September 07, 2016, 05:53:30 AM
Post by: 4x4American on September 08, 2016, 09:49:00 PM
Post by: mountainlake on September 09, 2016, 04:13:37 AM
Sure sounds like you need new belts, sooner the better. I wouldn't blame Cooks for operator abuse. Steve
Post by: mountainlake on September 10, 2016, 04:16:53 AM
(Cook's builds things like a bunch of Bubbas) Really? Steve
Post by: 4x4American on September 11, 2016, 07:31:51 AM
(Cook's builds things like a bunch of Bubbas) Really? Steve
I stand behind that 100%.
I have a Cook's Sharpner, Dual Tooth Setter, Single Tooth Setter, and the AE4P edger. I have worked on a guy's old AC-36 and watched a brand new AC-36 running. I know all about Cook's "Quality" Equipment. They get it 80% there, and then the end user gets to finish it the rest of the way. From the paint to the engineering, Bubba done built it, and to fix it, you gotta think like a Bubba. They should change the name of their company to "Bubba Built".
Don't get me wrong, I do like their products, that's why I have so much red in my shed, but you gotta know going into it, okay, I'm gonna have to do some engineering.
It's not just the belts on the edgers, there was a multitude of things that need tweaking, but, the belts are a constant battle. Some people say the rollers for the belts need more crown, and other people say that they should have no crown. But whatever they did with them rollers, it's not right lol.
If you get the Perkins diesel engine, make sure to turn the idle up to 1450rpms. They send it out of the factory at ~900rpms, and it will rattle itself to death. That Perkins engine is meant to turn high R's at idle. The weld on the belt shied was busted when I took delivery of the machine, the guy before me didn't know to turn the idle up. I've heard people who have busted the radiator on the thing because of the idle being too high. I went and looked at a new one a guy local had just got with 8hrs on it, and the thing couldn't cut a straight board. It'd cut a rainbow all day long. And it's all in those belts. If one is tracking to the left and the far one is tracking to the right, you're gonna get a rainbow. I've gotten the belts tracking much better since I first got it at least, but it will still sneak a rainbow here and there.
Post by: mountainlake on September 11, 2016, 09:12:12 AM
Post by: Kirk Allen on September 11, 2016, 12:45:30 PM
Post by: mountainlake on September 11, 2016, 01:03:30 PM
Post by: Kirk Allen on September 11, 2016, 02:54:40 PM
Post by: mountainlake on September 11, 2016, 03:03:47 PM
Integrity is doing the right thing when no one is watching!
I think every one knows Bubba means stupid and dumb and backwards . Steve
Post by: furu on September 11, 2016, 06:14:15 PM
I always thought it meant "Good Ole Boy"
Thanks for making me educate myself a little today guys.
;D ;D ;D ;D
By the way I think Cook's makes great equipment.
Doug: you can't bad mouth a used piece of equipment that may not have been treated well or even tweaked unintentionally or intentionally, just not to your liking. Your edger belts maybe the result of mal-treatment.
BUBBA
A sweet nick name certain people give to someone they consider a bro/sister, like a best friend sorta thing.
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Bubba is a southern derivation on the word "Brother"
Have you found your bubba® yet?
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Whether at work, driving down the open road, hitting the gym, hanging out with family, or tailgating with friends, rest easy, because with bubba by your side, you’ve got a companion for life.
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noun, plural bubbas.
1. Chiefly Southern U.S. brother (usually used as an affectionate term of address).
2. Slang: Usually Disparaging and Offensive. a term used to refer to an uneducated Southern white male.
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bubba
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Brother, Not uncommon as a nickname : Here comes big Bubba Jones (1860s+ Southern)
also a person of simple Southern rural culture; cracker, GOOD OLD BOY ?Occurrence increased enormously during the early years of the Clinton administration : People watching ''Jeopardy!'' aren't just bubbas out there/ He doesn't have your typical ''Bubba'' approach to state government (1980s+)
Post by: Kirk Allen on September 11, 2016, 07:01:07 PM
Integrity is doing the right thing when no one is watching!
I think every one knows Bubba means stupid and dumb and backwards . Steve
I used to think that until I did a class at an Air Force Base in Oklahoma and used the term "Bubba Proof". Room was silent, and I was soon introduced to TWO guys actually named Bubba.
Bubba is not as derogatory as you might think in many parts of the south and even southern midwest.
Post by: xlogger on September 12, 2016, 04:36:29 AM
Now you guys from the north figure it out.
Post by: 4x4American on September 12, 2016, 10:41:21 PM
I don't like to get involved with the drama..but.. Steve/ladylake/oliverm5sc: and you're one to talk about brand bashing? The first person to point a finger...apologize for what? I ain't Canadian! Thanks for the laugh. :laugh: :laugh:
"Bubba" isn't a bad thing...Bubba just ain't so technologically advanced...Bubba means well, and is doing the best he can.
Now, the fact of matter is, I have plenty of red equipment, to speak honestly, from experience, about the quality of equipment. In my mind, the whole entire point of a forum, is to let the truth be known. We are here to help each other, not kiss the companies butts. If we want better equipment, we can use these valuable forums, made available to us by good people, to let our voice be heard. If all we ever do is bow down and try to get sales for the color of equipment we own, all we're doing is stepping on our own feet, letting the MFG. get away with building cheaper, crappier products. If we hold the MFG's to higher standards online, and their sales drop when they start letting lesser quality products go out the door in turn for more production, that is how we will get them to see the light, faster. Some sites can be bought out, but not this one. Back in the day, the mfgs might have been able to get away with it longer, because nobody could research very much on something they want to buy. Nowadays, people like Ricky can get online and post a question, and get real, honest opinions. And that's just what I've offered, my own opinion, you don't have to listen to it, hell, pour some salt on it, take it how you want it. I'm just offering up my experiences, to help the next guy, and let the truth be known. Welcome to 2016.
Post by: 4x4American on September 12, 2016, 10:47:10 PM
Maybe being the only one from the south on this topic, around here if he's a bubba we think of a big awkward guy. Not a bad guy, just one you might call to help if you got into a fight.
Now you guys from the north figure it out.
Up here they know Bubba as Hoss Cartwright from Bonanza
Post by: mountainlake on September 13, 2016, 05:30:36 AM
Post by: backwoods sawyer on December 29, 2016, 10:46:32 PM
Post by: xlogger on December 30, 2016, 04:49:53 AM
Post by: bandmiller2 on December 30, 2016, 06:58:19 AM
Post by: red oaks lumber on December 30, 2016, 07:09:46 AM
the best part of this forum is being allowed to give honest assesments of equipment , companies ect. i never give a false opinion about a product good or bad. god knows i own plenty of junk that was given bullshit reviews.
Post by: HaroldCR - AKA Fla.-Deadheader on December 30, 2016, 08:11:55 AM
For what it's worth, I'm with Frank (bandmiller2). There just isn't much to an edger. You need a 1 1/2" shaft keyed . You need 2 collars that bolt to 14" blades and one has a keyway and tightened to the shaft at a pre determined location for the fixed blade and the other has been reamed in the bole slightly
so it slides on the shaft and the key lightly filed where it run the keyway and is tack welded to one end of the collar so it runs with the blade along the shaft.
A couple short pieces of 4" channel for the main frame and a couple of 4" (cut to fit in the "C", for whatever length you want for the table.
No sense in continuing. Ain't nobody gonna build one anyway.
Post by: bandmiller2 on January 02, 2017, 07:28:39 PM
Post by: 4x4American on January 03, 2017, 08:52:43 PM
Awhile back I bought new belts for it, and new blades. Got them tracking good. Found that the belts it came with were cut so far out of square that the guy who cut it must have been using a speed square and marked the 45 degree side on accident. Edger was working..then we got to a wet day and I was told that after about 3 cuts, the belt tracking just took off, and it ate up the side of the new belt. I am not sure if it really took off as fast as the guy running it claimed it did, he misses the small things, see, so I think half of it was his fault and the other half the fact that there's not enough crown on the wheels for it to track properly. You get any bit of sawdust packed down in there and you have to stop and clean it or else the belt is off in la-la land.
Another pet peeve of mine is that the press down rollers have these bearings mounted backwards. They have it so that the bearing shoulder mount dooey is right directly in the way of a board when you run a wide board through. It will stop the board dead in its tracks. The pointer that they use to show what width the blades are at is pathetic. It's a piece of wire bolted to a piece of steel bolted to the chain. My clumsy worker bumps it all the dang time and knocks it around so much we have to shut the edger off and reset the indicator, as well as every time we take the tarp off in the morning.
They also put the emergency shut offs in bad spots we hit them all the time during regular use and have to fire it back up again (hopefully remembering to put it back to idle first). One top of that, they plumbed the wire for it so that any wide flitch that is coming through the edger will hit it and can rip that thing right off. The fuel can is a red gas can with a "Diesel Only" sticker on it, I thought that was funny. The idle is set from the factory too low, 900rpms, and it rattles like hell until you put it to what Perkins specifies (1450rpm idle). The guy who owned it before me didn't know this and it broke a weld on the shield before he had 50 hrs on it. The sight line to eye up the cut is not adjustable and if you have anything thicker than 2" don't work very well because it's only 2" from the table so you have to lift it out of the way and then put it back on the piece once it's there and then it's not as accurate even though it wasn't to begin with. The fence seems to be out of line and pushes the board as it leaves. The oil dipstick was on the wrong side, the fuel line had to be rerouted to change the fuel filter, the paint falls off if you breath on it too close, the handle to adjust the blades falls off no matter how tight you make it, and it's bulky and catches your clothing. On top of that, the thing is the most expensive edger in it's class on the market. And a big reason they sell them and their crappy dual tooth setters is because they bought out some other internet site so the people can only read rave reviews about it, say one thing bad and like our friend above me they're cut right off. If the companies were hung out to dry then they'd be more apt to have a better product. I don't hate the thing, it cuts edges off flitches, like I bought it for. We use it. I don't really run it much any more, my guy does. I let him enjoy the headaches that ensue. They paint them red to match the color of your face when you're running it. This is my consumer report, my opinion, everyone can have one, take it for what it's worth.
Post by: red oaks lumber on January 04, 2017, 06:30:52 PM
Post by: backwoods sawyer on April 17, 2017, 01:53:42 PM
Post by: bandmiller2 on April 20, 2017, 07:41:00 PM
Post by: 4x4American on July 25, 2017, 09:13:36 PM
She'll do.
Post by: Ox on October 03, 2017, 10:07:11 PM
Regarding opinions on machinery: Has anyone, ever, had a piece of machinery that they didn't like something about? I honestly can't say I've ever run a perfect tractor, rig, truck, car, chainsaw, sawmill, edger, gun, lawnmower, anything at all, ever, in my life. There's just always something that ain't quite right. Now, I've almost come close once when my ex employer, a trucking company, bought a bunch of brand new Freightliners but even then - some would have a rattle where others didn't, some would have a little leak for the intercooler on the turbo and not pull a hill as good as the others, some had the air ride seat sink down after a few minutes, a couple had the passenger mirror control not work. These brand new trucks ran the gamut of things that weren't right. About 15 trucks if I remember right. Crazy, right? Maybe that's why they're commonly known as "Freightshakers"...
An old farmer once told me: if it's got tires, tits or a transom you're gonna have a problem one day. :-X
Probably some of the best advice I've ever had. Love them old timers, the most of them.
Post by: mountainlake on October 06, 2017, 06:05:09 AM
That's right, nothing is perfect. When I got my TK mills it had a couple of problems that some would have pissed and moaned about and never fixed. I just fixed them better than factory and my mill has been real reliable for over 13000 hours now. Every once in a while something will go bad, mostly electrical but not too often. Steve
Post by: Ox on October 06, 2017, 10:57:04 AM
Post by: 4x4American on October 06, 2017, 06:58:23 PM
Post by: Ox on October 06, 2017, 09:48:57 PM
As far as I can see, there's two types of fellas - those who fix before it's broken because they see it coming and don't want a pain in the ass at an inopportune time and those who wait for things to break for various reasons that I'll never understand cause I'm the first one if money allows.