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Title: A message to Jeff Brokaw of the Forestry Forum
Post by: Ox on October 03, 2017, 10:34:41 AM
Jeff:  You have permanently banned me from the Forestry Forum because of words that I wrote on this forum about you.  Either this, or your words about our private messages (PMs) being absolutely private were absolute lies and you went in to my PMs and breached your "words of good" about yourself.  My words were, once again, the TRUTH and shed you in a bad light, and you don't like that.  If you don't like being shed in a bad light, how about living your life like a good man and not a corrupt one.  You are a son of a bitch, and karma is real.  Your actions will hurt only yourself in the end.  From what I read about your father and grandfather, I'm positive that they would be (or maybe are) disgusted with your greedy and dastardly actions on the Forestry Forum.

It's a sad day indeed when a citizen of these United States is not able to speak about another citizen on a separate forum for purposes of venting.

I've said it once before and I'll say it again:  Thank God for the Sawmill and Timber forum!

And Jeff Brokaw:  you will be burning in hell.  You are a liar, a hypocrite, and are green with envy and jealousy.  Joke's on you and you don't even know it!

End of rant.  Sorry, good men, for any who got this far and are offended.  I'm sure the most of you understand where I'm coming from.  When an entire forum is created from the evils of a single individual.....well, that says something right there, doesn't it?  ;)
Title: Re: A message to Jeff Brokaw of the Forestry Forum
Post by: Kirk Allen on October 03, 2017, 03:56:35 PM
Offended?  LOL......OK, now I need a new keyboard after spitting my coffee all over this one! LOL   
Title: Re: A message to Jeff Brokaw of the Forestry Forum
Post by: Ox on October 03, 2017, 04:39:15 PM
Crap.  I can send you an old Dell keyboard.  I might even have 2 of them.  Is this good enough? Just pleeeeeeeaaase don't boot me offa this forum, massa. lol  ;D

Seriously, though, if you need a keyboard I can hook you up.

And seriously, thank you for this forum.  I love patriots.  I hate half truths and lies.  You've done a good thing here and in your real life patriotic duties.  Your ancestors would be, or are, very proud.  I know I try to make my ancestors proud in my daily life.

Title: Re: A message to Jeff Brokaw of the Forestry Forum
Post by: joasis on October 03, 2017, 06:01:41 PM
Is Jeff still sucking up donations and lying about his needs? You must have not been there for the "hard drive crash and pity party" huh?
Title: Re: A message to Jeff Brokaw of the Forestry Forum
Post by: Ox on October 03, 2017, 06:25:13 PM
Nope, I guess I missed that one.  I fell for one of the donation drives before I wised up and saw the truth more clear.  I sent him $10.  Others sent him up to $300!  We got a single email addressed to everybody saying thanks and what a surprise.  He made a couple thousand dollars I think.  Seemed like no big deal...

I'm starting to put together a much bigger picture of this guy.  The picture forming before my admittedly naive eyes (I'm a hermit in real life) is that he has many problems.  Some are forgivable.  Most are not.  We all have faults.  To openly admit them is the mark of a true man.  To try to cover them up and twist and mince words to show oneself in a cleaner light is unforgivable.  It is a lie.  Liars burn.   >:D

I stood up for the truth, openly showed what the truth was and was banned for it.  Perhaps your situation was similar?  I'm starting to see a common denominator here, and it is Jeff Brokaw.  Hmmmmmm............
Title: Re: A message to Jeff Brokaw of the Forestry Forum
Post by: joasis on October 04, 2017, 09:22:12 AM
Lots of people got sucked into the Jeff Pity Party Plan....and he obviously lives off of the sponsors and "donations" because of one "crisis" after another.

Jeff is a con man who can't or won't hold a job, and lacks any integrity or honesty...in other words, a fraud as a man.

He has found a way to create a niche place for himself and suck up to generally honest and hard working men who love the art of milling and timber......nice guys who believe his BS lies and never have a reason to look behind the curtain.

I would imagine a search of the public records in his state or county might reveal what is behind this con artist.

My problem with him is absolutely personal....if you attack me....then stand up and defend it. He can't, because he is a POS of the first order, and a coward to boot, and the guys who circle the wagons for him are less then he is...and that is the bottom of the barrel.
Title: Re: A message to Jeff Brokaw of the Forestry Forum
Post by: Ox on October 04, 2017, 10:52:15 AM
I completely understand your frustration because he like to make things personal, then drop the ban hammer, then leaves little snarky snippets afterwards like "have a good life".  These actions show what he really is.  Or he tries to create this moral high ground to stand on and preach down to you.  He's very condescending and likes to chastise people like he's their father.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts - I like hearing the problems good men have had with him.

I know there's one old coot there that unabashedly kisses Jeff's ass proudly and openly.  He also openly pushes sponsors and himself.  I thought at first he was just a good ol' boy but man was I wrong. 

I'm so glad to be out of there.  I felt a little dirty every time I stumbled across one of his or his trolls' posts.

If you have something to say to Jeff, say it here.  I'm 99% positive he cruises this forum looking for words against him.  That's why he banned me - I spoke out of line about the dictator of the Forestry Forum.  I'm 1% sure at least one of his minions go around looking for stuff against "his boss" and runs and tells if he finds anything.  Sickening and funny at the same time!

I wish there was a way to open up the eyes of the many good people over there and bring them over here.  They don't deserve to be constantly lied to.
Title: Re: A message to Jeff Brokaw of the Forestry Forum
Post by: joasis on October 04, 2017, 06:39:38 PM
I don't care if any of Jeff's minions read what I post, or Jeff reads it....he is welcome to do so...he is welcome to pick up the phone and call...he is welcome to come and find me. Might not have a great outcome, but he would find out what it means to let your mouth write checks your ass cannot cash if he tries it in person. It is easy to be a keyboard warrior.....it is another matter when you are face to face with someone....and Jeff ain't got the balls.
Title: Re: A message to Jeff Brokaw of the Forestry Forum
Post by: Ox on October 04, 2017, 06:42:10 PM
LOL  well said and I believe you are correct in your observations.

I like the fact you put your number up for all the world to see.

I've noticed an increase in telemarketers since I got booted.  I don't remember:  did we have to provide our phone number to sign up on the FF?  Somehow something funny is going on.  I wonder if he doesn't sell the member list to spammers and telemarketers... it nets him money, after all.
Title: Re: A message to Jeff Brokaw of the Forestry Forum
Post by: joasis on October 04, 2017, 06:46:42 PM
We all got taken in by the good old boy BS.....I don't remember giving a telephone number, but it wouldn't matter.

All it takes to grow a forum is participation, and frankly, I quit worrying long ago if we did grow. It isn't about numbers, it is about the members. Kirk and I don't have to lie to anyone to live, like Jeff and his crew do.
Title: Re: A message to Jeff Brokaw of the Forestry Forum
Post by: Ox on October 04, 2017, 06:49:52 PM
Well said, bud.  Well said.  I love the atmosphere here, I really do.  It seems like we're sitting around a patriotic milita meeting or something.  A few swear words, no big deal.  Something on your mind and want to vent?  No big deal.  I love it!

I suppose we're fortunate that bastard ain't in politics cause he sure is a smoothie.  But his ways are catching up to him.  This little thing he built around himself will not last forever, I guaran-damn-tee you that.
Title: Re: A message to Jeff Brokaw of the Forestry Forum
Post by: RiverForest on May 17, 2018, 08:22:37 PM
Wake up  ;D. I just found this.

I came to this site after being threatened and bullied.  Have not signed in since (I just google in if I want to find something discussed there, to avoid being ID'd).  Nice to know the last name.  I'll bet Tom is sorry for the association if he knows.

Funny.  Jeff zealously struts that he screens out bad language and prohibits bad behavior.  By OTHERS.  But get him riled or criticize an advertiser....

Wasn't he/Isn't he, having some serious site hacking troubles?  Around January, IIRC?  He was bellyaching loudly about it back then (maybe since).  Probably instigated by one of his ban-ees.  There are hitmen in the cyberworld, and I suspect he may have an enemy or 2 mad enough to hire one.

I'm now a Wood-Mizer owner.  If he takes a shot at me, I'll complain directly to Indy.  Vociferously and endlessly until they get my message and whack his Butt--I spent 4 years as an elected county supervisor and know how to nail bad guys where they can be hurt.  But I am not going back to FF.

MagicMan is the "old guy" you refer to.  Lynn Davis? IIRC.  Wood-Mizer references him on their site, cannot recall details.  I have a sneaking suspicion, and some evidence, that WMZ has some sort of tie in there beyond being just an advertiser.

I'm here to stay, Boys & Girls.  I recognize some of you from FF (drobertson, Ox, cssawyer, more) but there may be others.  I'd love to attract Don P (Grayson County VA, does anyone know his last name--I think we may be kin??), and a few more.
Title: Re: A message to Jeff Brokaw of the Forestry Forum
Post by: Kirk Allen on May 17, 2018, 10:44:09 PM
Welcome to the forum and know we don't play those games! 

As far as bellyaching that he was hacked, I suspect it is another one of those fake news cries so people will donate more money to him.  The pattern of poormouthing is laughable.  In fact, it's seasonal! LOL 

Enjoy the forum and know we charge for NOTHING!
Title: Re: A message to Jeff Brokaw of the Forestry Forum
Post by: Ox on May 18, 2018, 09:48:03 AM
Welcome and breathe the free air, my friend!

Let it be well known that Jeff and his cronies lurk here, probably daily, reading all about everything just to report back.  So you are now a marked man!  It's okay though, because being patriotic Trumps all.  :D
Title: Re: A message to Jeff Brokaw of the Forestry Forum
Post by: Crusarius on May 22, 2018, 03:28:58 PM
Well least I know why you stopped talking to me. Here I thought you didn't like me anymore.
Title: Re: A message to Jeff Brokaw of the Forestry Forum
Post by: Ox on May 23, 2018, 09:54:54 AM
lol!  I was just thinking about you the other day when I broke out the mill to flatten some black locust poles.  I'm glad to say I haven't had to adjust a thing since building and doing the initial adjustment, so this proves to me that the design is at least good enough.

How did you make out with your build? 

If you care about being part of that other forum be very careful what you post here because the troll lurking is real.  I know from experience.  I thought I cared once but long ago found out being here is the best forum decision I've ever made.  It's truly free and full of patriots.
Title: Re: A message to Jeff Brokaw of the Forestry Forum
Post by: Crusarius on May 23, 2018, 10:05:06 AM
Well. I have cut a total of 3 logs. it is not done yet but is working very well. Still have a lot of little things to finish up, and paint.

If I could ever get time in the shop and focus I could get it done pretty quick.

As for the others watching me... I am hoping even though I joined over here that I can remain relatively neutral. I do not know most of the people over there enough to form any conclusion whether I like them or not. When all else fails I do have my own forum to help keep me busy.

I do have to say some of the warnings I have received have been a little over the top. One of the last ones warned me of doing something I shouldn't and to stop doing it. I have no idea what I did, so I think I stopped?

Whatever, lifes to short to be like that. I would rather surround myself with 3 good ppl than 300 fair weather friends.
Title: Re: A message to Jeff Brokaw of the Forestry Forum
Post by: Ox on May 23, 2018, 10:38:26 AM
Hopefully one day soon you can get finished.

And your last 2 sentences are pure gold.
Title: Re: A message to Jeff Brokaw of the Forestry Forum
Post by: Crusarius on May 23, 2018, 10:49:22 AM
oops just reread and had to fix a typo.
Title: Re: A message to Jeff Brokaw of the Forestry Forum
Post by: drobertson on May 23, 2018, 02:52:32 PM
RiverForest,  no need to sneak in the back door here. If folks don't like what's said, well, it seems like not much is said, so it works pretty good for that.  My only regret left over from the FF is a few folks I never got their e mail accounts, there were several folks I enjoyed visiting with but never got the e mails, only pm's so all contact lost with several folks I enjoyed sharing thoughts with.  The only two I ever had issues with were one from Maine/NH, and the other Mississippi, and I did call them both out, not in a bad way, just a straight up, from my experiences kinda way.  I was told I would never make it to heaven, Oh, wait that was after the sorry SOB reference,. anyway, I'm looking forward to future conversations,
Title: Re: A message to Jeff Brokaw of the Forestry Forum
Post by: red oaks lumber on May 23, 2018, 06:09:14 PM
jeff the deplorable ..... i hope he's suffering miserably
 
metallica has a song named " king nothing" fits him to a tee

welcome aboard
Title: Re: A message to Jeff Brokaw of the Forestry Forum
Post by: Ox on May 24, 2018, 09:22:26 AM
dave - through reading your thoughts over the years i feel like I know you to a degree.  Anybody who calls YOU a sorry SOB and thinks you ain't getting to heaven is sadly mistaken.  You're a good man and them other suck holes and ass kissers on that other forum who don't think so can go sink on a fencepost (if ya get my drift).
Title: Re: A message to Jeff Brokaw of the Forestry Forum
Post by: Kojba on May 24, 2018, 08:34:12 PM
RiverForest,  no need to sneak in the back door here. If folks don't like what's said, well, it seems like not much is said, so it works pretty good for that.  My only regret left over from the FF is a few folks I never got their e mail accounts, there were several folks I enjoyed visiting with but never got the e mails, only pm's so all contact lost with several folks I enjoyed sharing thoughts with.  The only two I ever had issues with were one from Maine/NH, and the other Mississippi, and I did call them both out, not in a bad way, just a straight up, from my experiences kinda way.  I was told I would never make it to heaven, Oh, wait that was after the sorry SOB reference,. anyway, I'm looking forward to future conversations,

DR,, You were one of the people I admired most, :) over at the "other" forum.  I visit many forums, so far this one seems genuine.  I like that.  I always enjoy the "live and let live" philosophy, seems to be in short supply on some other sites.  I also dislike the "ass kissing", "pecker sucking" crowd, who swoon all over the persons who are in authority.  I honestly don't know how you can write an ass kissing message and retain a proper set of balls.  I'd rather take a bullet, than kiss anyone's ass.  Guess it was just how I was raised.  Lucky, I guess....
Title: Re: A message to Jeff Brokaw of the Forestry Forum
Post by: Kirk Allen on May 25, 2018, 12:09:41 AM
Kojba, AMEN!
Title: Re: A message to Jeff Brokaw of the Forestry Forum
Post by: A.O. on May 27, 2018, 08:44:55 AM
Well DANG!!   I got into this whole sawmill thing late in life, and other than a few google forays I never went to the Forestry Forum! Sounds like I missed out on a bunch drama over there. And if I know me I would have been banned early anyway as I'm kinda a loudmouth … Heck, I just got censored and banned from facebook for a day a couple days ago, will probably just delete my account.. not much into censorship.. especially from snowflakes!
Title: Re: A message to Jeff Brokaw of the Forestry Forum
Post by: Ox on May 27, 2018, 09:52:42 AM
Yep, with a "bad attitude" like that you would have been booted over there just like me.  Folks who don't toe the line are not welcomed at the Forestry Forum.  You're not missing anything, really.
Title: Re: A message to Jeff Brokaw of the Forestry Forum
Post by: Kojba on November 05, 2018, 05:34:15 PM
WOW!  Just read a post on the FF general board.  It was under the title, "Good by".    Sharp discussion.... :P
Title: Re: A message to Jeff Brokaw of the Forestry Forum
Post by: red oaks lumber on November 05, 2018, 05:48:22 PM
jeff the deplorable already moved the topic into full membership.
 i almost pucked even going to that site :(

Title: Re: A message to Jeff Brokaw of the Forestry Forum
Post by: Kojba on November 05, 2018, 05:51:43 PM
jeff the deplorable already moved.

???????  And???? Elaborate????
Title: Re: A message to Jeff Brokaw of the Forestry Forum
Post by: red oaks lumber on November 05, 2018, 05:53:56 PM
i went back and modified my post
Title: Re: A message to Jeff Brokaw of the Forestry Forum
Post by: Ox on November 06, 2018, 08:13:18 AM
Jeff the Meek moved it so that we "non members" can't read it and chuckle about it.  I'm surprised he didn't delete it.  But wait...he absolutely doesn't delete posts, right?!?  Hmm.  I know for a fact he's deleted a few of mine that made him look "slightly bad". 

Oh - and HI JEFF!  HOPE THINGS ARE GOING HORRIBLY FOR YOU.  YOU DESERVE NOTHING LESS. 

Boy oh boy, am I glad I'm not Jeff Brokaw.  There are many, many lies and much deceit and deplorable behavior that needs paying for.  His life will not be very pleasant before the end.  At least he won't be lonely - there's many, many people like this, unfortunately for the rest of us.
Title: Re: A message to Jeff Brokaw of the Forestry Forum
Post by: Kirk Allen on November 06, 2018, 12:37:26 PM
Stay tuned for another influx of those who will no longer tolerate Jeff Brokaw.  Also, stay tuned for him to hold yet another pity party help me, fundraiser, as it is the holiday season.

And for those who have read the comments on the FF, don't be fooled as the one in charge of the server can, in fact, go into the files and read messages if they choose.

I will never do that but all need to know your messages can be viewed by a creep running the server. When we set this up I spent hours learning and for a noncomputer guy, I figured it out.  The files are there and nothing is secret, especially with Jeff Brokaw and I believe you will find posts where I first disclosed that here.

 
Title: Re: A message to Jeff Brokaw of the Forestry Forum
Post by: Kirk Allen on November 06, 2018, 12:45:16 PM
Two past posts where I shared private messages ARE NOT private! 

http://www.sawmillandtimberforum.com/index.php/topic,106.msg848.html#msg848 (http://www.sawmillandtimberforum.com/index.php/topic,106.msg848.html#msg848)
http://www.sawmillandtimberforum.com/index.php/topic,1619.msg13785.html#msg13785 (http://www.sawmillandtimberforum.com/index.php/topic,1619.msg13785.html#msg13785)
Title: Re: A message to Jeff Brokaw of the Forestry Forum
Post by: Ox on November 07, 2018, 08:52:59 AM
I remember you talking about that before, Kirk, and your transparency is just one of the many things I like about being here.  You guys in this forum are unmatched.

I have no doubt in my mind Jeff has read private messages written by the members there.  He's a low down sneak thief who has no equal that I've ever met.  Hell, he acts like a socialist/communist with a lot of his ways.

I'm wondering if he needs to seek some mental help.  Normal people don't act that way.  Do they?  I don't get off the mountain much these days...

Title: Re: A message to Jeff Brokaw of the Forestry Forum
Post by: mike p on November 07, 2018, 08:07:58 PM
years ago one of Kirk's post were deleted that I was following and I asked the Forester Forum where the hell it went and they banned me for it luckily by that time I had known kirk well enough to know we're to find him.
Title: Re: A message to Jeff Brokaw of the Forestry Forum
Post by: Ox on November 08, 2018, 10:26:49 AM
Unbelievable.  Banning for asking a question.  Hell, I was banned for telling the truth and not backing down when asked about it, in addition to talking about it here.  Claimed I was giving "free advertising" for Cutting Edge by suggesting him whenever somebody wasn't happy with their blades.  Said "that's how I make my money is through advertising".  Cutting Edge is a representative of Kasco blades which is a sponsor of that forum.  Friggin' guy is just like the fascists he claims to not like.  What do you call a jerk who talks out of both sides of his mouth and has a power problem which likely coincides with small body parts?  Answer:  Jeff

Thank God for Sawmill and Timber Forum.
Title: Re: A message to Jeff Brokaw of the Forestry Forum
Post by: kbeitz on January 11, 2019, 05:40:55 PM
Jeff is one of the most unfriendly persons that i know of.
I'll never forget how he put me down because I sharpen
my band saw blades with a dremel. He laughed at me...
I miss the place but I sure don't miss him... there was
some good people over there. I'm not going back.
Title: Re: A message to Jeff Brokaw of the Forestry Forum
Post by: Crusarius on January 11, 2019, 08:46:23 PM
kb, good to see you. I was hoping you would show up. I miss you over there.
Title: Re: A message to Jeff Brokaw of the Forestry Forum
Post by: Ox on January 12, 2019, 09:17:49 AM
Welcome, kbeitz.

Same here - sometimes I miss the place and most of the guys, but not the management and the walking on eggshells part.  Here you're free to say what and when you want.  And guess what?  We all get along just fine!  Not bad for a bunch of deplorables, eh?

Edit:  I made a mistake and sounded like I contradicted myself and so fixed it! 
Title: Re: A message to Jeff Brokaw of the Forestry Forum
Post by: A.O. on January 12, 2019, 09:41:56 AM
Well I got into this whole sawmill thing just last year, and was never part of the forestry forum. I kind of wish I had been, I've been tossed from a couple forums in my days, another one might have been fun! I do not ever walk on eggshells I just say what I think so I'm sure I'd have been banned at some point...

Glad I'm here though, even if I am an old sawmill rookie!
Title: Re: A message to Jeff Brokaw of the Forestry Forum
Post by: joasis on January 12, 2019, 07:14:45 PM
Jeff is one of the most unfriendly persons that i know of.
I'll never forget how he put me down because I sharpen
my band saw blades with a dremel. He laughed at me...
I miss the place but I sure don't miss him... there was
some good people over there. I'm not going back.

Jeff isn't an expert at anything except being a lying S.O.B.

Point: There isn't a damn thing wrong with having the skill to sharpen any kind of teeth with any tool or technique you can if the results are satisfactory. 

I saw some halfwit (probably named Jeff) bitching and complaining about machinists who think they can sharpen twist drills by hand...saying it is not possible. Well.....I learned how and can still do it today...1/2 inch or 2 and 1/4 inch, matters not...give me a decent grinding wheel or even a belt grinder and I can make it cut beautifully.

I had no problem sharpening my inserts with a file either....I didn't need a jog to hold any set...it was all in the technique. How many old men could have file a handsaw and it would cut like new? It was a skill of necessity....if you know how the teeth need to be ground, and you can do it with a Dremel, then you win the prize of not having to by an expensive sharpening set up.....
Title: Re: A message to Jeff Brokaw of the Forestry Forum
Post by: furu on January 12, 2019, 07:49:18 PM
I had a guy show me 4 years ago how to hand sharpen drill bits.  It is a very nice skill set to put in your tool bag of skills.  Anyone who says that you can't do it is flat wrong.  Now I probably would not do a 1/16 drill bit but when you get up to  the larger more expensive bits it can save a lot of money and is better than one of those Drill Doctor devices.
Title: Re: A message to Jeff Brokaw of the Forestry Forum
Post by: Crusarius on January 12, 2019, 08:41:15 PM
that is a skill I wish I could master. I can't even do it with the drill doctor.
Title: Re: A message to Jeff Brokaw of the Forestry Forum
Post by: kbeitz on January 13, 2019, 04:14:33 PM
Easy... You just got to know what the heel and toe of the bit is...
The toe digs in ... The heal drags behind...