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Sawmills and Sawing => Bandsaw Mills => Topic started by: kbeitz on January 13, 2019, 04:02:46 PM

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Title: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: kbeitz on January 13, 2019, 04:02:46 PM
I think we need a thread going that anyone can post pictures of what they are doing with there mill and the projects they have going on now. Just bar talk...
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: kbeitz on January 13, 2019, 04:10:14 PM
I'll start out with a problem I had last year with my mill. The band saw wheels had wallowed out the bearing walls of the wheels bad enough that something had to be done. The wheels was to big to fit in my lathe so I found a different way to fix them. 660 Bearing retainer... I first drilled 5 holes on each side of my wheels and tapped them for set screws. I mounted a 20mm shaft in my vise and slid the wheel on the shaft. I made sure it was centered and put the bearing retainer on the wheel and bearing,. It worked great.

 
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: mountainlake on January 13, 2019, 04:13:21 PM
 Nothing today, I was out on a custom job yesterday for 8 1/2 hours sawing ash.  Lots of 3 x6 different lengths and 1" boards  6" wide. They are building a hunting cabin.  Tomorrow sawing at home some 1 x12 x 14'  white oak and catching up on edging  .  Last Tue and Wen sawed some 14 X14 X 8  10 and 12' out of big ugly white oak. Steve
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: mountainlake on January 13, 2019, 04:18:21 PM
I'll start out with a problem I had last year with my mill. The band saw wheels had wallowed out the bearing walls of the wheels bad enough that something had to be done. The wheels was to big to fit in my lathe so I found a different way to fix them. 660 Bearing retainer... I first drilled 5 holes on each side of my wheels and tapped them for set screws. I mounted a 20mm shaft in my vise and slid the wheel on the shaft. I made sure it was centered and put the bearing retainer on the wheel and bearing,. It worked great.

 


 Back when I first got my mill I has trouble with the bearings getting loose in the bore also, I took the wheel to the local machine shop  where he bored out the hole a little and installed steel sleeves.  That took care on that problem for $60 .  Steve
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: mountainlake on January 13, 2019, 04:27:22 PM

 More bar talk..   I was running Simonds red streak 3/4" blades for years and they cut the straightest of any blade I tried, then Simonds changed the Red Streak blades to a deeper gullet blade which didn't cut as straight so I tried Lennox , Dakin Flathers and Kasco blades.  After sawing that tough ash on Sat I'm liking the Dakin Flathers 3/4 pitch blades sharpened to 4 degree and a little shallower gullet. I sawed over 2 hours nice and straight on a couple of them in that tough ash.  Steve
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Kirk Allen on January 13, 2019, 09:39:56 PM
When I get some time I will post the pics of the CottonWood log that kicked my backside for pretty much an entire afternoon.  Nothing like pushing the limits on the size your mill can handle!    While I got some great boards out of it, I bet I still have a couple hours of cutting to finish the darn thing. 

Trim, turn, lift, shift, trim, drop, trim, lift and partially turn, trim, turn little more, trim.  Crap, all that lifting on the big small end pushed it far enough back my blade did not exit on that last trim.  Ever back out of a 17 foot cut on a cottonwood?  JOY!  Ok, log far enough off center I can't turn it anymore because of all the weight on one end. 


Getting the picture?  :)
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: kbeitz on January 14, 2019, 02:29:18 AM
Once while I was sawing walnut I hit some metal... When don;t you when sawing walnut. I finished the cut and found bullets in my log. So I took a chunk to my wood lathe and turned a bullet out of the bullet...

Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on January 14, 2019, 07:27:25 AM
Not a dang thing! Throttle cable broke, trying to locate another!
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Kirk Allen on January 14, 2019, 08:00:17 AM
Kbeitz, you can keep your picture pixes much higher so they turn out better. 
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: kbeitz on January 14, 2019, 10:20:53 AM
Kbeitz, you can keep your picture pixes much higher so they turn out better. 

Sure would like to know how... I'm using Paint Shop Pro. and I need to resave my pictures using the highest compression to get them down to 40k or under or they wont load. It sure would be nice if we could upload a larger file. Most of my pictures is around 900k in size. Knocking them down to around 40k really kills them.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: furu on January 14, 2019, 11:26:21 AM
Max image size is I believe 97.66kb

I posted a tutorial a while back about how to post.  You have no issue with posting pictures so ignore the majority of the information. http://www.sawmillandtimberforum.com/index.php/topic,1671.0.html (http://www.sawmillandtimberforum.com/index.php/topic,1671.0.html)

What is happening is the over compression and low sampling rate being used in your program results in the color change and distortion.  The freeware program I use is the one in the posted link (Infranview)and I really like it.  Jay likes XAT.  I am not familiar with paint shop pro but if you set the desired file size to 90-95 kb or thereabouts it should help prevent the undersampling as it compresses the file size.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: furu on January 14, 2019, 12:07:08 PM
I went back and re-looked at the pictures you were adding.  After looking at it for a minute and then going to your gallery and finding nothing in your gallery (it was empty) realized that you are inserting pictures in your posting using the "Attachment" link at the bottom of the reply box. 

That option does have a restriction that is different for picture sizing
Restrictions: 6 per post, maximum total size 1000KB, maximum individual size 40KB

Gallery picture size is 97.66 kb I am pretty certain.

I would suggest that you follow the gallery picture posting technique as it works much better than the attachment technique. 
Having said that I would read the link and follow the techniques in the link that I posted above.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Savannahdan on January 14, 2019, 12:41:08 PM
Whoops, I gave him that information about posting as an attachment.  Good to know how to do it through the gallery and having ability to post a larger pic. 
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Tom the Sawyer on January 14, 2019, 01:37:06 PM
Nothing at the mill today, or this weekend.  Storm started Friday evening, although we only got about 7", the snow in front of the mill is 2-3' deep.  At or below freezing all week, so no melting, and another (potentially bigger) storm forecast for next weekend.  Time to sharpen some blades and do end-of-year paperwork.
(http://sawmillandtimberforum.com/gallery/1/219-140119132634.jpeg)
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: kbeitz on January 14, 2019, 06:12:23 PM
Your right. Anything over 40k would not work.
I had no idea there was a different way to post pictures...
I'll look into that... Thanks...
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: kbeitz on January 14, 2019, 06:15:34 PM
Ok... This is all I see when I post a post. Just where do I find the gallery button?

Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: kbeitz on January 14, 2019, 06:30:42 PM
Ok... I found my gallery... But for the best of me I can not find a way to name a gallery so i can put a picture in it... HELP....
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: furu on January 14, 2019, 06:35:32 PM
Ok... I found my gallery... But for the best of me I can not find a way to name a gallery so i can put a picture in it... HELP....
  Did you read the link in reply 10.

Here it is again. http://www.sawmillandtimberforum.com/index.php/topic,1671.0.html (http://www.sawmillandtimberforum.com/index.php/topic,1671.0.html)

Went and looked at the thread: post 4 of the thread is how to name/create a gallery. 
I would recommend just methodically going through the thread. 
If you already have the picture at the size you want you can skip the first part. 
Make/open two windows of the forum. 
Put the  link thread I mentioned in one and your post/attempt to add to the gallery in the other window so that they are both visible at the same time and just go step by step.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: kbeitz on January 14, 2019, 10:07:29 PM
Thanks... After all that work and uploading a picture that I can't see.
I got to say it's just not worth it. Thanks anyway...
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: furu on January 15, 2019, 01:29:38 AM
Is this the picture that you wanted to display?

It looks like you uploaded it to the gallery just fine.
You said you could not see it.  What can't you see and what did you do?  It should be about 3 or 4 mouse clicks after it is loaded depending upon how you do it.

(http://sawmillandtimberforum.com/gallery/1/1161-140119220218.jpeg)
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: kbeitz on January 15, 2019, 05:11:36 AM
Yep... Thats is... This is a screen capture of what I see... Nothing...
Guess the problem is on  my side. In 90% of the post it's all I see
is the little blue box just like in this picture.

Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: kbeitz on January 15, 2019, 05:13:24 AM
This little blue box...

Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Ox on January 15, 2019, 09:00:38 AM
What version of Windows are you using?  Looks almost like XP from what I remember...maybe this has something to do with it?  Because it isn't updated and supported anymore it's screwing things up for you?
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: kbeitz on January 15, 2019, 11:30:27 AM
Yep.... XP.... Thanks...
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: furu on January 15, 2019, 11:51:12 AM
I am far from an expert but once upon a time, mid (1990's) I was a true computer geek.  Not any more as the computer world has passed me by in ways that I barely comprehend.  Now I merely know what I don't know.

Have said that
 From your screen shot even though the resolution is pretty low I think it is Chrome.  I went into my Chrome browser to see if I could duplicate the results that you have shown and described and I think I succeeded in getting your results.

In the top right corner there are three vertical dots click on that to customize your chrome browser with the drop down box.
Click on "Settings"  (three up from the bottom)
Scroll to the bottom and click on "Advanced"
In the block "Privacy and security" there are many options look for "Content settings"  (it is near the bottom)
A new box appears and about 8 options down is one labeled "images" click the sideways triangle on the far right
New box shows up and near the top is an option that probably reads" Do not show any images"
If you see that then move the slider to the other position and the words change to "Show all (recommended)"

Exit the settings subroutine.

See if that resolves your problem

Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: kbeitz on January 15, 2019, 03:27:24 PM
I tried it... Still can't see the picture... If I right click on the blue box i get this...

Forbidden

You don't have permission to access /gallery/1/219-140119132634.jpeg on this server.
Additionally, a 403 Forbidden error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: furu on January 15, 2019, 08:01:41 PM
Have you tired Firefox or IE instead of Chrome?
When you checked the settings which condition was it in the correct one or the incorrect one?
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: furu on January 15, 2019, 10:12:27 PM
Did a mini search on google Chrome and the 403 error with denied access message
You might try the following.

I know you are using XP what browser and what version of that browser are you using?

Access Denied Message in Google Chrome
1. Settings.
2. Advance Settings.
3. Go to the option “HTTPS/SSL"
uncheck the option "Check for server certificate revocation”.
4. Restart Chrome.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: kbeitz on January 16, 2019, 07:31:32 AM
If I use IE I cant see anything here. I get this message...

There is a problem with this website's security certificate
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: kbeitz on January 16, 2019, 07:32:38 AM
Have you tired Firefox or IE instead of Chrome?
When you checked the settings which condition was it in the correct one or the incorrect one?

It was already set the way you wanted it...
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: kbeitz on January 16, 2019, 07:33:12 AM
Did a mini search on google Chrome and the 403 error with denied access message
You might try the following.


I know you are using XP what browser and what version of that browser are you using?

Access Denied Message in Google Chrome
1. Settings.
2. Advance Settings.
3. Go to the option “HTTPS/SSL"
uncheck the option "Check for server certificate revocation”.
4. Restart Chrome.


Tried that... No change...
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: kbeitz on January 16, 2019, 05:36:51 PM
I'm not worried about posting the pictures. I'll just keep doing it the way I was. One thing though... It's not just my pictures that I can't see, Its many posted pictures from other posters I can't see. But some I can. I'm on lots of other forums like woodworking and machinist forums. I don't have any problems there. It makes no since that I can upload them as an attachment and see them but putting the same picture in my gallery and I don't see anything...
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: kbeitz on January 16, 2019, 05:49:54 PM
If I erase part of the pictures address I can get into part of the gallery.
Anything past this and I get a forbidden notice.

Index of /gallery/0

Parent Directory
2_29_07_08_9_06_31_0.
thumb_2_29_07_08_9_06_31_0.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: kbeitz on January 20, 2019, 07:07:24 PM
Nothing today... Snowed under... And it"s cold....
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Crusarius on January 20, 2019, 08:00:18 PM
Just a little fun in zero degree temps :)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-j8k6GCHZkww/XET_Kt7TQuI/AAAAAAAADmM/lRYcneskjlEpa-PDoJDWQ_KJ6MUQLOf8ACL0BGAYYCw/h1280/8783973318106299925%253Faccount_id%253D1)
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: mountainlake on January 21, 2019, 03:33:15 AM
 
 What model  year and engine.  Steve
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Ox on January 21, 2019, 09:40:02 AM
Sitting at -4 right now with a high of 4 projected.  I'll be out in the shop a bit updating the mill.  I'll get pictures one day when I'm all done showing details of what I did.  Then I'll have to take pics of my other stuff since I promised it and haven't done it yet.  This is all stuff to be done when spring melt finally gets here and then we have to deal with mud season.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Crusarius on January 21, 2019, 09:45:57 AM
Ox, when you gonna come check out my mill?
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Ox on January 22, 2019, 09:38:24 AM
Not for at least 5 years.  The DMV and courts and cops around here have no sense of humor.  And I don't follow rules too well so I'm not allowed to drive anywhere because "I'm a menace to society" even though I've never hurt a soul.

Remember:  driving is a privilege, not a right.  This is what I've been told numerous times.

Damn my rebellious nature.  Makes things harder than it has to be.

Put up pics of your mill so we can all see.  I'm gonna soon.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Crusarius on January 22, 2019, 10:02:57 AM
sounds like an interesting story?
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: HaroldCR - AKA Fla.-Deadheader on January 22, 2019, 02:20:57 PM
Yeah, we want details, as long as yer house bound.  >:D  :laugh:
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Ox on January 22, 2019, 05:18:03 PM
The days of cruising back roads and drinking beer are long gone is all I have to say.  After the third time in less than 25 years they have no sense of humor about it. 

They've fined me and charged me and I'm still paying for DUI.  I was under the .08 limit all three times.  But they treat me like I've killed someone.  Hell, somebody can actually rape a poor child and get less total time of punishment and less fines than I have.  It's simple injustice.  I never hurt a soul.  They simply don't like people breaking their rules is what all this amounts to.

Now I've just had a ignition interlock device installed and I'll be on a restricted license that I can only go to doctors, school, or DMV, or shop that installed the device.  $85/mo.  for 5 years.  But there's hope - I've been told by those boys at the shop that some people get off after 3 years because they're "clean" so I'm hoping for that. 

I don't even sip beer anymore.  I've learned that I like to have too much "fun" when I'm drinking that shit and as a good ol hillbilly should, I go crazy with fun when I'm getting drunk.  Never hurt nobody, just breaking "their" rules.

Hey!  Y'all watch this!  Here, hold my beer......

need I say more?  lol
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: furu on January 22, 2019, 06:26:11 PM
If I erase part of the pictures address I can get into part of the gallery.
Anything past this and I get a forbidden notice.

Index of /gallery/0

Parent Directory
2_29_07_08_9_06_31_0.
thumb_2_29_07_08_9_06_31_0.


I have been a bit out of touch for a bit and have been thinking/searching on the gallery issue you have been having.
I am confused as I have not found in any effort that I have made to get the message and format of the text that you copied into your post above.

1. 
Where did you get the following and exactly what did you do to get it:

Index of /gallery/0

Parent Directory
2_29_07_08_9_06_31_0.
thumb_2_29_07_08_9_06_31_0.

2.
Try clicking on the links below and describe what you get  (screenshot is good)

http://sawmillandtimberforum.com/gallery/1/1161-140119220218.jpeg (http://sawmillandtimberforum.com/gallery/1/1161-140119220218.jpeg)

http://sawmillandtimberforum.com/gallery/1/thumb_1161-140119220218.jpeg (http://sawmillandtimberforum.com/gallery/1/thumb_1161-140119220218.jpeg)

3.  When you click on the gallery link at the top of the page (7th from the left 3rd form the right) what do you get?  Screen shot works




Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on January 22, 2019, 07:06:51 PM
Ok, as per the title of this thread.. "What did you do at your saw mill today".. I started cutting on some logs I have had for a little while. A bunch of hickory and a bunch of oak I received for helping clear a lot.

The plan is these are all for a kitchen I need at my house, Right now I'm thinking the hickory for the cabinets and the oak for the counter tops. But plans can and have before changed! So I started at one end of my pile..




So the first three were oak, I cut the first into one by's .. for trim and whatever..




And the next two I cut into 2 by's including live edge slabs (cause that's what everybody does these days right?).  These will hopefully end up as the countertops one way or another.





Now cabinets I have built before, I did not start with trees, but I did start with a bunk of cedar I bought from a small local sawmill. I've never attempted to build the countertops like this so we'll just have to see how it turns out!!

This is some of the cabinets I built with that cedar!



Oh, and the barrel vaulted ceiling I designed and built.

Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: furu on January 22, 2019, 08:49:55 PM
Nice work  really like the cabinets and ceiling
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on January 22, 2019, 09:13:18 PM
Nice work  really like the cabinets and ceiling

Thanks, I had to 4 square and then tongue and groove all that cedar for that ceiling!
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Stevem on January 23, 2019, 12:25:51 AM
Today I sawed 5 Port Orford cedars in my back yard, 8 and 10 footers.  Going to build a bunk house so cutting 6" x 6" and 4" x 6".  Moved the mill to a new location and it still smells like Port Orford.  Good thing I like the smell!
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: kbeitz on January 23, 2019, 03:59:01 AM
I can see A.O. images just fine. A lot of images I can't see. I'm on a lot of other forums and I have no problems seeing or posting images.

The first and second images is the two you told me to take a screen shot of.
The last (#3) image is where I got my information from. I Right click on the page and choose (inspect).

Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on January 23, 2019, 06:28:45 AM
I just copy and paste my pics from my photo bucket account..
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Ox on January 23, 2019, 08:58:08 AM
I'm horrible about subject drifting.  Sorry about that guys.

Keeping in line with the subject of this thread, I'll be putting the new up/down system together on the mill head.  New acme rods, new brass acme nuts ($110! - but they're pretty much forever so I just went with it), and rethreading the chain linking the two acme rods around the top to include the previous idler sprocket and gear motor that's now there.  Also have the other gear motor for the carriage forward/back mounted.  I'll have to eventually pull the mill into the shop (somehow) in order to finish this here project.  It's currently frozen in a nightmare outside.

I've mounted a stationary idler for the main engine drive belt (B belt) to hopefully take out some vibration while it's under load (thanks for that suggestion Richard at Cutting Edge).  It's positioned in the middle of the belt span. I used the idler arm and flat pulley from the tensioning system out of a Subaru boxer engine's timing belt.  It's an engine I "refreshed" and these were good but used parts pulled and exchanged for new, since timing is everything in an interference engine and failure of a timing component means destructive and expensive failure of the engine when pistons and valves meet, usually at high speeds.  :o

Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: kbeitz on January 23, 2019, 03:25:58 PM
Don't forget to put a spring stop on you limit switch.
The carriage takes time to stop.

Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Ox on January 24, 2019, 08:28:01 AM
Will do if I have that problem.

The control boards I'm using stops the motor NOW.  Instantly.  I may have to spring load the chain running the length of the mill.  On the other hand, the control boards allow a "soft start" at settings of 50% or higher which is kind of neat.  But it stops instantly at all settings.  I'll be using the potentiometer on every cycle, likely.  Which is fine.   It doesn't bother me in the least.  I'm saving my wore out and beat up body a little bit more by doing this, and as such I'll gladly sit and let it take its time if it wants to.  But I'm gearing it all with sprockets so that I can have feathering speed or blazing speed.  Going with 24V instead of 12V doubles the RPM available so this helps dramatically in what I want it to do and is why I went that way.  The only drawback to 24V vs 12V that I can see is the cost of another battery.  I've got an Interstate Battery over in the next town to the southeast of here and last I heard they were still selling good used batteries, so I'll go this route first just for cost reasons.  When they wear out I'll be going with deep cycle gel batt's just because they'll last so much better.

In a worst case scenario I can plug in a AC to DC converter with an extension cord and get the 24V that way.  A worst case scenario after that I will still be able to raise/lower by hand and push by hand by flipping the disengage lever in the gearbox of the gear motors.  In other words I'll still be able to saw no matter what.  ^-^
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: kbeitz on January 31, 2019, 12:56:47 AM
kinda doubt I'll get anything done today. we got -4F.... I'm ready for spring...
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Ox on January 31, 2019, 08:26:15 AM
No stoves/heaters out in your buildings?

I'm lucky in that I have a propane furnace out in the shop.  I go out a half hour before I wanna work and turn it up to 58 and it's good for working when I get out there.  I keep it at around 34 the rest of the time because it's hard on stuff to constantly freeze and thaw over and over again.  I have paints and distilled water and such that I don't want freezing.  It doesn't take much fuel at all to keep it just above freezing and it's well worth it when the paints don't separate and get ruined.  Plus, the metals out there don't sweat constantly and rust near as fast. 

Today I reckon I'll start on running chain and making threaded chain anchors and anchor points for the carriage forward/reverse.  I finally got the mill frame in the shop, and the carriage sitting on it.  Took me 3 days to get everything dug out, hooked up and unfrozen enough to make it happen.  I hate it here and am looking forward to TN.  5 years...
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on February 01, 2019, 07:23:03 AM
Continued cutting up some oak logs



And some hickory logs earmarked for my kitchen



And installed (a couple days ago) a new option in my saw yard.



Today is mostly a clean up day.. fridays usually are...

Edit to add: Oooops, I guess those are some older pics of my oak.. but the new piles I made look the same so there ya go! You can see a new pile behind the hickory in that pic!




Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Ox on February 01, 2019, 08:14:25 AM
Good looking lumber.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on February 01, 2019, 11:35:24 AM
Good looking lumber.

Thanks, Still trying to figure this all out. I know my Lobloly pine has very minimal shrinkage, Never cut and dried oak and or hickory. I'm cutting my 1 x's between 7/8 and 1 inch thick. Hope that works ok, guess I'll know in 6 to 8 months.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Ox on February 01, 2019, 06:56:59 PM
All I know is that if you want a finished 1" board when you're done, you better mill it at 1-1/4" so it leaves you room to plane to thickness.

Myself, for my purposes, I mill at 1" and let the chips fall where they want.  I have a board somewhere between 7/8" and 15/16" when it's done drying.  I build with only rough cut so serves my purposes fine.

I'm also not too picky about how my boards look.  They're mostly flat and square and hold up buildings and things.  Can't ask for much more, can I? 
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on February 02, 2019, 07:45:01 AM
All I know is that if you want a finished 1" board when you're done, you better mill it at 1-1/4" so it leaves you room to plane to thickness.

Myself, for my purposes, I mill at 1" and let the chips fall where they want.  I have a board somewhere between 7/8" and 15/16" when it's done drying.  I build with only rough cut so serves my purposes fine.

I'm also not too picky about how my boards look.  They're mostly flat and square and hold up buildings and things.  Can't ask for much more, can I?

But if I cut them to 1 1/4 then there is SO much to plane off. All the cedar I did years ago was about 7/8" rough when I got it and other than a few boards it worked fine planeing  them to 3/4.


I need to cut some more Loblolly's, I'm running out of skids to stack lumber on. I can only stack about a foot high on them before they get to heavy for my tractor!
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: HaroldCR - AKA Fla.-Deadheader on February 03, 2019, 02:16:02 PM
Not actually a fully functional sawmill, ,YET, BUT, I started painting some of the parts today, of the "Jakerson" Peterson/Turbosawmill crossbreed. I cut up the Peterson WPF swingblade sawmill and have used all the pieces I could, to make the single beam automated swingblade mill.

 Getting too old to chase the thing up and down the logs all day long.

 Going to try to post some photos in a build thread, SOON.  ::)  :laugh:

Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Ox on February 04, 2019, 09:28:37 AM
Looking forward to seeing that!
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on February 13, 2019, 08:02:10 AM
Continuing to cut some hickory for future cabinets.


And after hitting a stop and ruining a blade for the third time in a year, I posted the golden rule on my little mill, sure hope it helps!

Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: kbeitz on February 13, 2019, 08:39:20 AM
When I built my mill and read about all the people hitting the stops I
decide to build my mill so that could not happen. See the picture of
my dog stopper.



Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Ox on February 13, 2019, 09:19:58 AM
I remember seeing that over on the other place.  It's a good idea.  I wonder why more mill manufacturers don't do something similar?  Is there a drawback to it that I can't see?
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Crusarius on February 13, 2019, 09:29:21 AM
The way I built mine makes putting one on challenging. I will be adding one though. Since my first stop has been shortened already.

I bet most mfr's are concerned about the sudden stop with power feed options. And since most of the mills have power feed or have it as an option that is probably why they do not have that.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on February 13, 2019, 12:52:52 PM
My saw came with one of those stops..



But it only works well when the stops are in the correct configuration...



My problem is I turn them around when I'm trimming oddball takeoff boards, and then if its right at the top it will hit them anyway..


Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on February 13, 2019, 12:57:57 PM
And more stuff for the day with my mill, or getting ready for my mill anyway. I need some more pallets built, so I cut a couple trees down for the materials to build them, and for some SYP dimensional lumber.






Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: kbeitz on February 13, 2019, 03:24:05 PM
I remember seeing that over on the other place.  It's a good idea.  I wonder why more mill manufacturers don't do something similar?  Is there a drawback to it that I can't see?

The only drawback is wondering why the mill head wont move when it does hit something...
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Ox on February 14, 2019, 09:15:22 AM
Yellow pine might just be the perfect lumber tree.  Wish I had some...

kbeitz - I know what you mean.  Many times I've chased a problem starting with complicated things first instead of starting at the bottom with simple stuff.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on February 14, 2019, 09:53:44 AM
Yellow pine might just be the perfect lumber tree.  Wish I had some...

And I have more than I could ever cut! One of my main reasons for buying my little sawmill!
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: moodnacreek on February 14, 2019, 12:38:02 PM
Can a circle sawmill chime in here, I see it's under band mills?
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: furu on February 14, 2019, 01:17:58 PM
Of course please do
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on February 14, 2019, 02:07:36 PM
Can a circle sawmill chime in here, I see it's under band mills?

NO Dammit!!!

hehe..

Absolutely, and welcome!
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Ox on February 14, 2019, 03:02:37 PM
Ewwww.  A circle sawyer?  Hmpf.

Just kidding, of course.

What's on yer mind?
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: starmac on February 14, 2019, 06:10:26 PM
I sawed quite a bit before I ever hit a stop, and wondered why everybody did. lol Well finally I hit one and was surprised at how a little band could cut into that iron, in fact I was so impressed I tried it again an hour or so later. lol
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: moodnacreek on February 15, 2019, 09:19:56 AM
Started 2019 with a live log w/ stop and load deck. Took a month to put it in. Put a floor in it and skirting on 3 sides. Been rolling logs since 1980 and get sore shoulders now so it,s time.  Next project: pantograph and hyd. lines to carriage.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: mountainlake on February 15, 2019, 02:20:29 PM

 I couldn't even get pics from my phone to the computer , now I have a new computer and phone. Maybe in a month or so I'll get pics on here. My wife has figured out how to send pics to another phone already so there's hope .Steve
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Ox on February 16, 2019, 08:31:40 AM
moodnacreek - we'd all love to see pics of this

mountainlake - we'd all love to see pics of this

Hopefully the pics thing gets figured out by yall.  I owe the forum some pics too.  After I get the mill done I will do so.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on February 16, 2019, 05:12:56 PM
And yes pics are nice, and sorry if I go abit overboard sometimes...
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: furu on February 16, 2019, 09:17:57 PM
And yes pics are nice, and sorry if I go abit overboard sometimes...

You do not go overboard. 
Keep it going/coming.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Ox on February 17, 2019, 08:07:45 AM
Sorry?  For what?  You're a good guy and I for one like your pics!  I'm pretty sure everyone else does too!
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: moodnacreek on February 17, 2019, 08:28:27 AM
moodnacreek - we'd all love to see pics of this

mountainlake - we'd all love to see pics of this

Hopefully the pics thing gets figured out by yall.  I owe the forum some pics too.  After I get the mill done I will do so.The last camera I had was 35mm. My wife put some on F.F. once, took all night. While everybody was learning computers I was learning sawmilling, now I am 40 years behind.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on February 17, 2019, 09:13:21 AM
Sorry?  For what?  You're a good guy and I for one like your pics!  I'm pretty sure everyone else does too!

I sometimes take up a lot of space, I'm kind of a loud person (or so I've been told) maybe that's how I get to be loud on a silent screen! ;-)


And all you guys are way above me in the sawmilling world, big mills, commercial stuff, been doing it for years, stuff like that. I've just got that little manual mill, not sure how interesting it is to you guys...
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Crusarius on February 17, 2019, 04:33:15 PM
only thing interesting about my little manual mill is I built it myself :)

Today I was working on changing my mast guides from the metal on metal sleeves to something else. not sure if I want to use the linear bearings I bought or the cam followers.

any ideas?
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: kbeitz on February 17, 2019, 06:46:55 PM
Is this for the up and down? If it is I just used square tubing inside square tubing.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Crusarius on February 17, 2019, 07:56:18 PM
K, that is what I have right now. I don't like how it moves. The wheelchair motor really strains lifting it. I was really hoping I could do a set of linear bearings then a single acme threaded rod but not sure if it will resist twisting enough to eliminate the second threaded rod. Especially since I will only be lifting on the 1 side. but the engine fuel tank and battery are all on that side. So I do not know if I am balanced enough to do it. Maybe that should be a task for tomorrow. Check the balance point left to right and front to back.

I have thought about adding a garage door spring for lift assist as well but trying not to make the carriage any heavier.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: kbeitz on February 18, 2019, 01:34:10 AM
I'm betting that your going to need two rods.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Ox on February 18, 2019, 08:19:47 AM
Crusarius - for what it's worth I started out 4 years ago with b7 threaded rod and a stack of nuts for the up/down with 2-1/2", 3/16" wall square tubing over 2", 3/16" wall square tubing for the sliding action.  It's worked fine for many trips up and down.  I had chain and sprocket gearing that allowed 4 turns to the inch and the threaded rod was pitched at 16 TPI so it was easy to count the teeth on the sprockets (as gears) to make that happen.  I used #40 roller chain for linking them.

I've since upgraded to the up/down system Linn Lumber uses on his mills - the acme rods and those nice brass nuts/blocks.  There is no comparison.  It's weird now because this new system has a pitch of 5 TPI.  I simply left everything else alone and reinstalled as it was, just replaced the rods and nuts.  Of course the two rods are still chained together at the top to lock them together to turn at the same time and I used this place to plumb in the wheelchair motor to drive the up/down.  The cranking force by hand is a little tougher than before (going up only) but it moves roughly 3 times as fast!  It flies down.  I haven't tried the motor out on it yet, but with the gigantic people I see these little motors pushing around I think it'll be ok.  I think I'll be able to exit a cut, fly the head up and over the log and fly backwards on the carriage just like the big boys do.  I'll be making the electric system for the motors 24V because it doubles the speed range available and doubles the power (torque) available as well.  For the cost of an extra blemish battery from Interstate I think it's worth it in the long run for sure.

I keep the slides for up/down lubed with ATF/kerosene 50/50 mix occasionally while sawmilling, with a quick spray.  It scraped the paint off of course but then stopped there and I don't see any more wear really.  Theoretically it'll rub right through one day but I think it'll take millions of up/down cycles to get there.  Not in my lifetime!  The threads for up/down get a liberal lubing.  I use toilet brush ends, the ones with the wire in the middle and are formed in a loop with a plastic handle, to wrap around the top and bottom of the nuts for the up/down and this keeps sawdust from packing in the threads.  Just cut the handle off and you have an easily formed brush for multiple purposes.  And they're pretty cheap too.

I've only had to replace one bolt that held on the roller guide on the discharge side because it broke in half.  I assume it work hardened from vibrations and cracked and then broke.  It's the only thing I've had to do after sawing for 4 years and who knows how many bf.  Maybe 25,000 bf?  It takes massive time to cut this much doing it all manually is all I know.  I haven't had to do any more adjustments since the initial setup.  I was very picky about everything being as perfect as possible while building and adjusting and it's paid off.  It's a good design that holds up well.  I followed the plans to a T as far as construction was concerned.

Whew.  Time for a break.

Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Crusarius on February 18, 2019, 09:05:48 AM
Ox I have the same acme  rod setup and am using a 12 volt wheelchair motor. works good. but what I did on the mast making it a 2 post 2x6 design was probably not the best idea. I like to be different and this is one of those times I think it has hurt me.

The biggest issue I think I have is the 2x6 cross piece on top of the mast. It is laying flat and allowing me a good deal of twist which is what I believe is causing my "walking" / "shimmying" down the rails. I need to stiffen that up so it does not twist and that should fix that problem. The other problem with that is the location of it prevents me from mounting the sawframe further back because the engine will hit it and not allow me to go all the way up. This gives me quite a bit of weight hanging off the front of it which is what makes going up so much more work on the poor motor.

Hmmm in typing this all out I just got an idea about maybe just moving the threaded rods forward to lift closer to the sawframe.

I am very tempted to redo the entire carriage cause I do not like how it turned out. Version 2.0 is a cantilevered head....

Been very tempted to put this one on craigslist and build V2.0 I learned a ton from this build and the bit of sawing I have done I am pretty confident version 2.0 will be much more better.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on February 18, 2019, 11:19:07 AM
only thing interesting about my little manual mill is I built it myself :)

Today I was working on changing my mast guides from the metal on metal sleeves to something else. not sure if I want to use the linear bearings I bought or the cam followers.

any ideas?

How about sandwiching UHMW between those metal sleeves ? Pretty sure that's whats on mine..



https://www.amazon.com/Molecular-Weight-Polyethylene-Standard-Tolerance/dp/B00CPRDLAW
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Crusarius on February 18, 2019, 11:57:35 AM
That is a thought to.  I have actually tried that with thin nylon shims. did seem to help a little.

I think I just figured out the ultimate reason I have so much issues. I only used 1 cross piece across the top. currently it is not sitting on the trailer so that piece is flexing preventing any smooth movement. That is why I am fighting with so much bind right now. I do not want to put trailer in shop cause it takes up the entire shop.

I think I need to redesign that carriage with a ladder frame on top to stiffen up the carriage.

Damnit. I just built a toolbox and used some leftover 2x2 that I now need for the new carriage :(
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Ox on February 18, 2019, 02:32:20 PM
Be ready to pucker up when you see the new steel prices.  Seems like about double from 4 years ago.

I saw my latest cut list from my steel supplier a week ago and the price for it and I about sucked the fabric off my chair and I squeaked for a few days when I walked.

Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Crusarius on February 18, 2019, 02:49:01 PM
yea. I order enough I know how bad it is. Freaking blows.

But on a mcuh different note... I ordered a 4 jaw self centering 8" chuck for my rotary table on my vertical mill. The box showed up with a 1" R8 collett in it but the tag said 8" 4 jaw chuck. I ordered it from ebay but was shipped to me as a gift from amazon.

This sure has the makings of a scam on it.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: kbeitz on February 18, 2019, 05:54:24 PM
But steel at the scrap yard is at a all time low.... ?
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on February 18, 2019, 09:20:15 PM
So today at my mill, What I did was I sliced up some more Loblolly to make some more pallets for the lumber I'm cutting...
Just about 5 pallets worth...
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Crusarius on February 18, 2019, 10:28:45 PM
China was buying all the scrap we could make to turn it into cheap junk for us to buy back at a premium now steel prices are sky high cause there is no supply (since we sent it all to china) but china stopped buying scrap so the prices tanked.

Lumber is going to be the same way the greedy americans and all mighty dollar are going to guarantee it.

Just look at everyone with property planning on selling their homes so they have it high graded before they sell.

This entire world wants something for nothing. one day it will catch up to all of them. really hope it happens sooner than later.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: kbeitz on February 18, 2019, 10:31:43 PM
A.O. ... Show us some of your pallets... Size?
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on February 19, 2019, 07:23:07 AM
A.O. ... Show us some of your pallets... Size?

There's some pics of them on here somewhere, but here you go.. Oh, and right now most of the stuff I'm cutting is 8 foot, so the pallets are 8' x 40"

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I also built those "drying racks" in the last couple pictures, they work ok but are not very stackable, I have them up to 12 feet. I still use them for the longer stuff.


I get a stack about this big or maybe a little bigger and that's about all my tractor will pick up..

Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Crusarius on February 19, 2019, 11:09:29 AM
What I did at the mill yesterday.



&t=4s
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on February 19, 2019, 11:26:16 AM
Very nice! It scares me to even ask... Whats a a rail system like that cost?
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Crusarius on February 19, 2019, 11:46:46 AM
the linear bearings and rails are 20mm x 1500mm long the bearing and rails came from ebay cot $86 delivered. The 8020 was dumpster diving at work. But normally that shit is really expensive.

The plate on the router is the plate for my router table. It just happens to fit perfectly in the 8020 grooves.

I have $86 into that setup. Those are the bearings I was going to use on the mast of my sawmill carriage. The worked really well for the router sled :)
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on February 19, 2019, 11:51:54 AM
the linear bearings and rails are 20mm x 1500mm long the bearing and rails came from ebay cot $86 delivered. The 8020 was dumpster diving at work. But normally that shit is really expensive.

The plate on the router is the plate for my router table. It just happens to fit perfectly in the 8020 grooves.

I have $86 into that setup. Those are the bearings I was going to use on the mast of my sawmill carriage. The worked really well for the router sled :)

Impressive!! Exactly what is 8020? that railing?

Did some research, found the rails and the 8020 on ebay, how bout all the hardware holding it all together? Where did you get that? I may have a new project coming up! ;-)
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Crusarius on February 19, 2019, 12:04:39 PM
Company name is Minitec, the aluminum extrusions in the video is 8020. Just the name they use. Very expensive erector set.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Crusarius on February 19, 2019, 12:06:04 PM
I got lucky and they threw it all away at work so I re purposed it from the garbage bin.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Crusarius on February 19, 2019, 12:08:02 PM
That is stuff I had on hand but I would actually say get a couple sets of linear bearings for the main rails then another set of smaller linear bearings for the horizontal rails

If you really want to get crazy then you can put stepper motors on it and power it all. I may do that one day but we will see. It does not take long to do. That slab was 14" wide by about 48" long.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on February 19, 2019, 01:57:27 PM
That is stuff I had on hand but I would actually say get a couple sets of linear bearings for the main rails then another set of smaller linear bearings for the horizontal rails

If you really want to get crazy then you can put stepper motors on it and power it all. I may do that one day but we will see. It does not take long to do. That slab was 14" wide by about 48" long.

I could run that slab through my planer.

I'm looking to make these into a countertop for my kitchen and a set up like that might be nice! Might have to look into this.

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Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Crusarius on February 19, 2019, 01:59:43 PM
My planer has yet to become mine yet :) yet. :)

I need to buy one someday.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on February 19, 2019, 02:03:55 PM
My planer has yet to become mine yet :) yet. :)

I need to buy one someday.

I used a Delta Benchtop 12 1/2 incher for years, just picked up a Jet 16" a couple months ago to do the bigger stuff
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on February 19, 2019, 02:09:34 PM
Rainy day today so I got 3 more pallets ready to go..

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Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: kbeitz on February 19, 2019, 06:05:10 PM
Love the pallets... Great idea nailing the stickers right on the top.
My pallets are made from ash and I put treated 4x4 on the bottom.
I'm always looking for short cut off's treated 4x4's.

Love the router sled. I made one for my saw mill. Works great but
it's just not big enough. I building my second one and it's going to
be 12 foot by 8 foot. It's going to hang in the barn with cables that
will lift the whole thing up and out of my way when not in use.
What router bit are you using if I may ask ?
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Crusarius on February 19, 2019, 06:21:10 PM
AO, check this out

https://www.amazon.com/PZRT-Aluminum-Profile-Connector-Accessories/dp/B076D76YDD?pd_rd_w=ixWk2&pf_rd_p=27caa0ec-8650-499a-b248-e1e5e59c9db3&pf_rd_r=H4YXXDJ5NX84X4YZB9AS&pd_rd_r=5b8fe793-0c2b-4c74-be83-cf0cd4085cfb&pd_rd_wg=O9M6I&ref_=pd_gw_cartx

your connectors.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Crusarius on February 19, 2019, 06:23:17 PM
kb, here are the bits I ordered.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07L3PJHYL/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03__o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07KRQDQSY/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o04__o00_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: kbeitz on February 19, 2019, 06:57:40 PM
Thats the same bit I'm using for the one I made for my band mill plane.

The photo is what I'm going to use on my new sled...
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Crusarius on February 19, 2019, 07:59:08 PM
I have been wanting one of those for my vertical steel mill forever. I do wonder whether it will like the rpm's, wait your not going to use a router are you? just a motor? wonder what kind of finish it will leave.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: kbeitz on February 20, 2019, 03:29:10 AM
I just might add a drum sander to the unit. I put one on the saw mill.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Crusarius on February 20, 2019, 06:35:01 AM
I toyed with building a drum sander to. my dad has an 18" open sided thickness sander that is a drum. works well but takes long time to get slabs smooth. Especially when you have to do half and half.

I have been contemplating building a planer for the sawmill bed. but the heads alone would set me back probably 3000. Norwood makes a $5000 unit that is 25" wide.

https://www.norwoodsawmills.com/en_us/log-moulder-lx26
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: kbeitz on February 20, 2019, 07:55:59 AM
You don't need to spend $5000 if you make it like a router sled.
You already have the rails in place.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on February 20, 2019, 08:14:16 AM
AO, check this out

https://www.amazon.com/PZRT-Aluminum-Profile-Connector-Accessories/dp/B076D76YDD?pd_rd_w=ixWk2&pf_rd_p=27caa0ec-8650-499a-b248-e1e5e59c9db3&pf_rd_r=H4YXXDJ5NX84X4YZB9AS&pd_rd_r=5b8fe793-0c2b-4c74-be83-cf0cd4085cfb&pd_rd_wg=O9M6I&ref_=pd_gw_cartx

your connectors.

Thanks, I favorited that..

So how do you have your router attached? You router base just happens to fit in the slots in the rails?

Oh, do you have that permanently mounted to a table or what?

Thanks
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Crusarius on February 20, 2019, 08:19:04 AM
yes. the plate on the router is for my router table. it has quick release plate. the plate fits perfect in the rails.

KB, I just like the idea of being able to surface material faster. If I took the time to setup stepper motors and controls for size then it would be great to set it on the bed, clamp it, set the size in the program, and hit run. Then walk away and do something else.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: kbeitz on February 20, 2019, 11:52:18 AM
No need for expensive steppers when wheel chair motors are sooo cheap.
Almost every week I see them in our local junkyard.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Crusarius on February 20, 2019, 12:06:48 PM
that is true. not hard to put limit switches on it. Would be easy to automate just using limit switches you can set for the slab size.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: kbeitz on February 20, 2019, 03:40:06 PM
With a little electronics the limit switches can be reverse switches
and timers to inch one way or the other. I made a CNC machine
using only DC motors. No steppers.

Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Crusarius on February 20, 2019, 03:54:42 PM
yup. exactly what I was thinking. only reason for stepper motor is feedback. otherwise some type of rotary encoder could be used.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: kbeitz on February 22, 2019, 06:49:52 PM
I had my band wheels off so I could remachine the bearing bearing races.
Today I put everything back together and fired the mill up for the first time
this year. I cut some walnut. everything worked great. Honda started on the
3rd pull. we still got snow on the ground. Ready for spring I am....
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on February 23, 2019, 07:23:06 AM
So here's my little "saw yard" as I call it..

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And I was back to cutting some SYP. Mostly 1x10's. I can either use them for board and baton boards for a couple little buildings I need to put up, or I can S4S them and then T&G them for inside of one of my bigger buildings I'm refurbishing. Eventually I'll cut enough for both! ;-)



Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on February 23, 2019, 07:25:32 AM
I had my band wheels off so I could remachine the bearing bearing races.
Today I put everything back together and fired the mill up for the first time
this year. I cut some walnut. everything worked great. Honda started on the
3rd pull. we still got snow on the ground. Ready for spring I am....

So you built this saw right? How bout some better pics. I've seen close ups of parts your working on, and now this pic. I'd like to see the "machine" itself please.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Ox on February 23, 2019, 08:28:39 AM
AO - you're making nice looking lumber down there, I tell ya what.  A good square looking cant sitting there waiting to be turned into whatever you imagination decides is always a cool thing...
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: kbeitz on February 23, 2019, 08:46:36 AM
Let me know what parts of the mill you want to see... This picture is the router plane attachment I made to fit on the mill. It also has a drum sander attachment on it's back.

Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on February 23, 2019, 08:53:41 AM
AO - you're making nice looking lumber down there, I tell ya what.  A good square looking cant sitting there waiting to be turned into whatever you imagination decides is always a cool thing...

Thanks. My problem is getting it to that square cant stage (which is why I guess EVERYONE does the "live edge" stuff , which looks neat but is unusable till you cut the edges off!!) (sorry bout the rant) anyway, seems like a lot of waste getting to that cant sometimes, but maybe that's just the nature of the beast! With my new endeavor of making those pallets I cut off the bark and then make a few thin slices of (live edge ;-) ) boards that I trim and use for pallet material.

If there is a good/better way of getting to that cant hidden in there I'd love to hear it, If not I'll continue on my way of stacking then burning all those flitches(?) .
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: kbeitz on February 23, 2019, 08:56:59 AM
Cut ... Flip....Square...Cut....Flip...Cut...Flip....and cut...
Most important is squaring up the first cuts.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on February 23, 2019, 08:58:52 AM
Let me know what parts of the mill you want to see... This picture is the router plane attachment I made to fit on the mill. It also has a drum sander attachment on it's back.

Thanks, that picture right there was kind of what I was looking for.

I also found your other thread on here so I'm watching that too.

So you have a planer and a drum sander as part of your mill? You cant do those functions till the wood dries correct? So in fact you are just using your power source for multiple functions yes?
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on February 23, 2019, 09:12:49 AM
Cut ... Flip....Square...Cut....Flip...Cut...Flip....and cut...
Most important is squaring up the first cuts.

So how thick are those first cuts? If I cut them thick it seems I am wasting a lot of wood, If I cut thin slices seems like TONS of work dressing them up.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: kbeitz on February 23, 2019, 11:35:04 AM
When you first start out you will be saving all you can until you get so much
Wood you wont know what to do with it all. I built a wood burner for my
home so now I'm not wasting anything and I don't feel so bad about letting
some meat on my cut-off's. One thing you need to look for is an edger. An
edger will save you tons of work. They are also great for making stickers.
Another thing when I first started out was trying to get all long stuff from
my logs. If you log has a small bend in it you will loose a lot of lumber.
Sometimes it's best to cut it in half to save more boards. If you don't have
a toe jack that's another thing that would save you a lot of lumber. Lifting
the log a few inches on the small end will give you more lumber.

Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: furu on February 23, 2019, 01:13:16 PM
A.O.
I have to say some of the SYP is real nice looking lumber.  You are turning out some good stuff.

I use some of the "leftovers" of starting the log as firewood and some I just give up and put through the chipper and turn it into chips for spreading out for nutrient return to the forest floor.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on February 23, 2019, 03:35:56 PM
I do have a woodburner in my house,but pine is not the greatest thing to burn. I use some of it for kindling..

And here is my "toe jack" :-) Just a small floor jack I use..

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Here is a tree I used to make a 16 foot 6x6, the toe jack was necessary to make it centered..

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So when I'm cutting up logs I almost always measure up from the saw bed to compare center heights at each end, if they are within about an inch or so I don't normally adjust it , other than in the case of like that 6x6. Opinions on how close the ends should be??
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on February 23, 2019, 03:39:03 PM
A.O.
I have to say some of the SYP is real nice looking lumber.  You are turning out some good stuff.

I use some of the "leftovers" of starting the log as firewood and some I just give up and put through the chipper and turn it into chips for spreading out for nutrient return to the forest floor.

Thanks..

I've been just burning the pine cutoffs, But I do spread the sawdust and planer shavings in my food plot fields for a little biomass.. my soil here is real sandy and it needs all the help it can get.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: kbeitz on February 23, 2019, 05:39:41 PM
I made my wood stove forced air. I burn anything that doesn't have creosote on it.
I have no problems because my chimney is enclosed so it stays hot all the time.

Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: moodnacreek on February 23, 2019, 06:59:49 PM
I had my band wheels off so I could remachine the bearing bearing races.
Today I put everything back together and fired the mill up for the first time
this year. I cut some walnut. everything worked great. Honda started on the
3rd pull. we still got snow on the ground. Ready for spring I am....
  3 pulls to start a Honda? Something wrong there. Better have it looked at.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: kbeitz on February 23, 2019, 07:52:29 PM
First time it was started since Oct.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on February 24, 2019, 08:07:47 AM
First time it was started since Oct.

Pulls? What the heck are you pulling? Just turn the key and go! ;-)
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Ox on February 24, 2019, 09:00:13 AM
Good job centering the pith on that tapered log, AO.  It makes a big difference in making straight posts.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on February 24, 2019, 09:14:03 AM
Good job centering the pith on that tapered log, AO.  It makes a big difference in making straight posts.

Thanks.
I did two of those that day, they both turned out pretty good. They were my first attempt at it and were "practice logs. I want to put a roof over my mill and a couple drying roofs... I'm going to need a few more of them.

I cut a bunch of 4x4s and some of them aren't staying so straight (pith not centered) I'll use the crooked ones for firewood racks..
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: kbeitz on February 24, 2019, 11:43:21 AM
My Honda has 12v electric start but I have not taken the time to hook it to my 24v system. It starts so easy with the rope.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on February 24, 2019, 02:15:51 PM
My Honda has 12v electric start but I have not taken the time to hook it to my 24v system. It starts so easy with the rope.

Electric start was one of those things I wanted when I was looking at mills. Had both my shoulders done and didn't want to pull that rope all day..
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: kbeitz on February 24, 2019, 02:19:40 PM
Been there Done that ... Still feel the pain...But my rope pulls so easy...
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on February 24, 2019, 04:29:50 PM
Been there Done that ... Still feel the pain...But my rope pulls so easy...

Well my key turns easier, so there! ;-)
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: kbeitz on February 24, 2019, 06:10:50 PM
well you can loose your key easier that I can loose my rope.... ha ha....
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on February 24, 2019, 06:27:47 PM
well you can loose your key easier that I can loose my rope.... ha ha....

Well I have a spare...... somewhere..
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: kbeitz on February 24, 2019, 06:36:35 PM
Well I got 50 feet of rope...
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on February 24, 2019, 07:41:49 PM
HAHAHA... Where will it all end...
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: kbeitz on February 24, 2019, 08:15:17 PM
At the end of the rope....
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on February 24, 2019, 08:37:21 PM
Hmmm, 50 feet to go..
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: furu on February 24, 2019, 11:00:09 PM
Well it was not a good day.  My setworks decided to take a vacation so I was sawing manual which is not big deal.   

Nothing cosmic just trying to do some protection tube planting stakes for the next week.  Think stickers as to style and size.

(http://sawmillandtimberforum.com/gallery/1/528-240219224858.jpeg)

Well I got tired of the mundane timber sawing so I tried some metal sawing
Not a good result.  Only about 15 inches of blade damaged but I don't think it is recoverable no matter how I try to sharpen it.


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Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: kbeitz on February 25, 2019, 03:06:56 AM
I would be saving that blade for something that your not sure you would want to risk a good blade on. Like cutting an old railroad tie.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on February 25, 2019, 06:33:32 AM
Been there done that and I'm thinking don't waste your time, trash it and move on!
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: kbeitz on February 25, 2019, 06:56:33 AM
I run my blades until they break.  I also touch them up with a dermal tool.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on February 25, 2019, 07:31:49 AM
I run my blades until they break.  I also touch them up with a dermal tool.


Is your mill self propelled or do you have to push it?
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: kbeitz on February 25, 2019, 08:18:28 AM
Wheel chair motors... Works great...

Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on February 25, 2019, 11:06:00 AM
Wheel chair motors... Works great...

Very cool, Mine is totally manual and it gets hard to push if I let the blades get dull enough to break.. or if I run them through a piece of metal..
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Ox on February 25, 2019, 11:15:59 AM
I used some old bandsaw blades for gas tank strapping in a vehicle.  Heat up quick with a torch, to cherry color I think, to anneal and then it drills through pretty easy.  Never tried to drill without heat so I don't know that part.  I quickly cut off the teeth with a cutoff wheel in a grinder.  Don't take long at all.

Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on February 25, 2019, 11:33:15 AM
I used some old bandsaw blades for gas tank strapping in a vehicle.  Heat up quick with a torch, to cherry color I think, to anneal and then it drills through pretty easy.  Never tried to drill without heat so I don't know that part.  I quickly cut off the teeth with a cutoff wheel in a grinder.  Don't take long at all.

Yeah, I've been keeping all my blades, dull ones to resharpen someday, the trashed ones because..... well I don't know I guess. :-)

WAIT A MINIUTE... I wasn't supposed to be talking to you!  ::) >:D ;D
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: starmac on February 25, 2019, 12:06:13 PM
What, you guys are not cutting them into 15 inch pieces and selling them on ebay? I have seen pieces like that on there and asking price was what a new band sells for. lol

Some guys here use them for bear protection on their cabins.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on February 25, 2019, 12:08:55 PM
What, you guys are not cutting them into 15 inch pieces and selling them on ebay? I have seen pieces like that on there and asking price was what a new band sells for. lol

Some guys here use them for bear protection on their cabins.

Interesting, might have to look into that,What are they selling them as or calling them??
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on February 25, 2019, 02:02:03 PM
Today?? How bout some clear pine...

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Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Ox on February 25, 2019, 02:58:01 PM
I'm envious of that yellow pine.

Red pine has knot rings every 2 or 3 foot or so.  Going from clear to knots time after time plays hell on keeping perfectly straight lumber.  It's fine with a razor sharp blade, but it don't take long for that sharpness to go down just a touch, then it starts wandering a tad, then more and more until you're tired of seeing the little light gaps between blade and cant when you cycle back with the carriage.

Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: starmac on February 25, 2019, 04:53:17 PM
A.O., I don't remember if they were calling them anything different. I am thinking I just did a search for woodmizer and they came up. I really did not pay much attention to them.
Anytime I ruin a blade, I know of somebody that can cut it up and use it at their cabin, so they don't get totally scrapped.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: kbeitz on February 26, 2019, 02:55:20 AM
This might bring a laugh... I bring tons of what I call good band blades
home from our local junkyard. I slap one on the mill and touch it up
with a dremel. I'm at the point that I don't think I will ever need to buy
a new band. last week I was cutting BIG $$$ walnut with no problem.
Once you learn how to set and sharpen any tool then you can use it
until it snaps or looses it's size to do it's job.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Crusarius on February 26, 2019, 06:42:12 AM
I always wonder why setters and sharpeners are so expensive. They are so simple its ridiculous.

I still want to make a set of rollers up for setting the blade. be pretty easy to make a timed set of rollers that you just clamp the blade in crank it around and the sets are perfect on every tooth.

Would be a single operation.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on February 26, 2019, 06:45:04 AM
This might bring a laugh... I bring tons of what I call good band blades
home from our local junkyard. I slap one on the mill and touch it up
with a dremel. I'm at the point that I don't think I will ever need to buy
a new band. last week I was cutting BIG $$$ walnut with no problem.
Once you learn how to set and sharpen any tool then you can use it
until it snaps or looses it's size to do it's job.

Where did you get that setter tool, or did you make it?
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: kbeitz on February 26, 2019, 07:21:12 AM
Setter tool is home made... I never found the need for a roller.
I'm thinking that not all mill concave the blade or they are running
them to tight. I bought a brand sharpener to sharpen my bands
but the time it take to remove the band and put it in the machine
I already got it done and the log sawed up with the dremel .
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Crusarius on February 26, 2019, 07:49:50 AM
I just want a set of rollers to make the set. not necessarily to flatten blades. I prefer not to flex them if they do not need to be. That will just add to fatigue.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on February 26, 2019, 07:56:33 AM
I just want a set of rollers to make the set. not necessarily to flatten blades. I prefer not to flex them if they do not need to be. That will just add to fatigue.

I would like to see this device..
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: kbeitz on February 26, 2019, 08:04:14 AM
I to have never seen a rolled set... More info please ...
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Crusarius on February 26, 2019, 08:04:52 AM
When I get around to playing with it I will be happy to show it off :) right now I have no way of sharpening or setting. But this is going to have to change.

My sharpener idea is a drag style sharpener that uses a blade section for a profile cam.

Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: starmac on February 26, 2019, 12:29:39 PM
Looking at some of the stuff Kbeitz has conjured up, I am suprised he hasn't come up with a self sharpener and setter, that works while you are sawing.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on February 26, 2019, 01:34:08 PM
Looking at some of the stuff Kbeitz has conjured up, I am suprised he hasn't come up with a self sharpener and setter, that works while you are sawing.

I call dibs to be first in line when it comes out!
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: starmac on February 26, 2019, 01:37:25 PM
Dad gummit and a few more bad words, I thought of it. But that is ok, you can get the bugs worked out of the first one. lol
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on February 26, 2019, 05:40:00 PM
So am I the only one here actually milling lumber? I thought that is what this thread was for...

Today.. milling up some 12' 2x6s and 10s hopefully for a roof over my mill!

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Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on February 26, 2019, 06:24:25 PM
Oh, I even tried my hand at sharpening my blade with a Dremel.. didn't turn out too bad..
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: kbeitz on February 26, 2019, 08:02:47 PM
I'm waiting for the snow to go away so I can see my logs.
I also have one of my main tractors is for a repair.
Looks like I need a new head... $$$ Come on spring...
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Crusarius on February 26, 2019, 08:08:05 PM
yea, my mill is in pieces the logs are frozen in a pile of mud. I will not be milling for a while.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on February 26, 2019, 09:22:59 PM
Sucks to be you guys I guess!!  I was milling in a T-shirt today! 😳😬🤣
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: starmac on February 26, 2019, 09:45:36 PM
Keep your t shirt weather there for a while yet, we are finally going to start hauling across the rivers in the morning. I am hopeing the ice last a while, but no way are we going to be able to finish it like they want. Thety did not want to have to build any ice bridges again next year.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Crusarius on February 27, 2019, 06:26:47 AM
I really need to get the trees down where i want my shop and get them out of there before the ground start to soften up. problem is if I get them out of there they will go where I usually setup the mill. Then I will not have a spot to setup the mill. I can't seem to win.

At least I think I finally came up with a good plan for my shop. Going to be a monitor style shop built in 3 phases. Hopefully this gives me the ability to actually do it.

First piece is going to be 20x36 leanto. Then next will be the 25x36 tall center with loft. Then last will be the other 20x36 leanto that will be open for lumber storage and whatever else fits under it.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on March 02, 2019, 05:12:29 PM
Well this wasn't really "at" my sawmill, but I broke down and bought myself a set of chaps...

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I didn't think my motorcycle chaps would work !

Been cutting trees most of my life, small scale just for my needs, and have never had a set. Got a little close a while back and thought it couldn't hurt.. might even save some hurt!!
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: furu on March 02, 2019, 10:41:30 PM
You can buy about 10 sets for the cost of one minor injury visit to the emergency room.  You can buy a lot more sets for an injury that is more significant.  It is sometimes a bit of a pain to put them on, especially when it is hot, but just remember the cost,  both financially and physically, if you are not wearing them and have an issue.

Good job an getting them, now make the habit of wearing them.

Yes I am a bit of a safety nerd. 
A guy I work with intermittently and I were having a discussion about safety gear and chainsaws. 
Next time I saw him first thing he said was that he should have listened.  He put a 6 plus inch slice in his leg and knee.
He bought himself a set and his father and father-in-law a set  for Christmas after that trip to the ER.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on March 03, 2019, 07:15:04 AM
Yeah, I'm a bit of a safety nerd myself, Heck I'm a certified Motorcycle Safety Instructor, but I just never did the chainsaw chaps, I do the glasses, helmet but not the chaps. But I had an "almost" close call so I figured it was time.

I do think I'll get in the habit of putting them on.


And heck they were only 80 bucks, not too bad. And orange, my favorite color! ;D
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: kbeitz on March 03, 2019, 07:38:50 AM
Hey.... At least I bought a pair a few years ago... So I'm thinking
I might try them on some year....
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on March 03, 2019, 08:03:37 AM
Hey.... At least I bought a pair a few years ago... So I'm thinking
I might try them on some year....

Been there done that with a few things!
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Crusarius on March 03, 2019, 08:41:42 AM
Yesterday I finally got a 3 jaw chuck for my rotary table on my vertical mill. Now I just need to get it centered on the table and life will be good. I was going to machine an adapter but if its not centered it does me no good. May have to go to work and use a lathe to make the centering tool.

Hopefully today I will get some bushings made for my ERTL pedal tractor from when I was a kid so I can give them to the 4 year old on the 10th at his birthday party.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: kbeitz on March 03, 2019, 11:48:07 AM
Just chuck up a dial indicator to help you center up..
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Crusarius on March 03, 2019, 04:44:36 PM
yea. guess I could do that but since it is not restrained at all, every time I move it it will move all over.

The one we just bought at work had a tapered alignment pin to align to the hole in the rotary table. That is what I need. That would make life super easy. the other option since I am holding it down with clamps is to machine an adapter plate with a taper on the bottom and a circle to match the chuck. if I machine it all in 1 shot on the rotary table it will be true and centered.

I think that is what I am going to do. But today I focused on the kids birthday present. got new bushings made and welded into the wheels now I need to prep and paint. his birthday is sunday. hopefully I can get it done.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: kbeitz on March 06, 2019, 12:24:31 PM
Just put a redwood floor down in my home... I would much rather be running the mill.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on March 09, 2019, 01:25:50 PM
Just doing some more logs, oak and hickory I'm planning on using to build my kitchen.

Question for you guys, remember I'm a rookie still learning. So my mill is "rated" to be able to cut a 26" log, I put a log on there that's 20-23" depending where you measure, anyway, pushed against the stops the log dog handles wont clear the saw frame to push it by... yes I said push!

Any tricks to dealing with this? I was thinking undoing the back dog, saw past its position, re-engage it then undo the front one and go on by. My concern with that big log (for me) on there it might shift and bind up the saw blade in the log.  Pics below.

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One oak log I opened up had a bunch of this in it so I took it over to my firewood pile.


Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Ox on March 09, 2019, 02:12:19 PM
Take a hatchet or axe or chainsaw to the log and clear away whatever you have to to get the clearance you need.  Meaning cut a notch into the log where the dog is clamping onto the log so the dog will slide in a little farther so it'll miss your carriage.  No big deal - the outer slabs are waste products anyway, as far as sawmilling is concerned. 
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Tom the Sawyer on March 09, 2019, 03:36:16 PM
Two things that might help.  Very few logs are perfectly round and straight.  Sometimes you can roll the log enough to get the clearance you need, like opening the second or third face first.  Yes, it means more rolling but it does get smaller after each pass.  :laugh:

The other technique, and I'm not familiar with your model of mill, is that, if you have more clearance on the drive (log stop) side than on the idle wheel (clamp) side, you might be able to lower your stops a little bit below the mid-point of the log and nudge it over enough to get clearance.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on March 09, 2019, 03:49:14 PM
The other technique, and I'm not familiar with your model of mill, is that, if you have more clearance on the drive (log stop) side than on the idle wheel (clamp) side, you might be able to lower your stops a little bit below the mid-point of the log and nudge it over enough to get clearance.

Might look at that.. I was kind of thinking I would slab it out, and selling it in year or so..
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Crusarius on March 11, 2019, 07:11:25 AM
Did I understand right and the clamps are what is preventing you from cutting? use wedges to hold the log or gravity if it balances right. Then the clamps will not be in the way. Then roll and continue. Most of the time the log will hold itself in place.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on March 11, 2019, 07:23:04 AM
Did I understand right and the clamps are what is preventing you from cutting? use wedges to hold the log or gravity if it balances right. Then the clamps will not be in the way. Then roll and continue. Most of the time the log will hold itself in place.

Thanks, I like the wedges idea and it finally quit raining so this is one of my projects today, that and setting up a pistol range closer to the house, always a project to go down to the rifle range to shoot! My daughter is coming out in a couple weeks and wants some practice time/instruction with her pistol, so a new range is in order.

Turning it will also be some fun too, just little old me and a cant hook. ;-)
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Crusarius on March 11, 2019, 07:47:04 AM
right there with you A.O.

I am my own mexican. Manwell labor :)
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on March 11, 2019, 08:04:14 AM
right there with you A.O.

I am my own mexican. Manwell labor :)

HA!! Yes I am my own Mexican too, both legal and documented! Been that way a long time! always have to figure out ow to get stuff done by myself!
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on March 11, 2019, 12:40:53 PM
Alrighty then, I lowered the stops and moved the log over, AND I cut me some wedges and used them till I had room to use the dogs, AND used my little top handle chainsaw to relieve where needed. So I used ALL your ideas, thanks guys... I'm learning!

A couple times I had to shift that log left or right while I was in the middle of a cut, blade in log! But I got it done and got a pretty nice little pallet of wood I think. And I know that's not much of a log to some of you guys, but it was a whopper to me, had a little fun rolling it by hand!

 Here's proof!

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Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: furu on March 11, 2019, 01:57:24 PM
What do you have to do the banding straps?
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Ox on March 11, 2019, 02:36:31 PM
Good job.  Big is always relative to the machinery, so yeah - that was a big log but you whittled it down until it was manageable and made it happen.  That learning curve is priceless. 

Ever think of using your loader to turn large logs?  Just need some chain/cable and a skidding hook/half a skidding tong.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on March 11, 2019, 02:40:05 PM
What do you have to do the banding straps?


Just el cheapo ratchet straps, Harbor freight had them on sale for $6.99 a four pack, northern hydraulics about the same so I bought some of each to try out. If you band wet wood, when it dries the bands will get loose, with these I figure I can just give them another couple cranks.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on March 11, 2019, 02:44:35 PM
Good job.  Big is always relative to the machinery, so yeah - that was a big log but you whittled it down until it was manageable and made it happen.  That learning curve is priceless. 

Ever think of using your loader to turn large logs?  Just need some chain/cable and a skidding hook/half a skidding tong.


Actually I have thought of that, I have plenty of chain here ,and I bought a hook from a cant hook a while back to try out. Just haven't tried it yet. Thought I might today but got it done without, thanks. I see some use an engine hoist with a hook too. To hard to position I think though unless its sitting on concrete..
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Crusarius on March 11, 2019, 02:47:21 PM
I prefer to use a nylon strap. wrap 1.5 times then just lift.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on March 11, 2019, 02:50:32 PM
I prefer to use a nylon strap. wrap 1.5 times then just lift.

Splain that better please.. Does you strap have a hook on the end or.... ?
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: kbeitz on March 11, 2019, 03:02:26 PM
I started out rolling my logs with this modified bumper jack...
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Post by: kbeitz on March 11, 2019, 03:03:45 PM
....
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: kbeitz on March 11, 2019, 03:05:00 PM
Then I built this...

Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on March 11, 2019, 03:05:56 PM
I started out rolling my logs with this modified bumper jack...

I like it.. you make some neat stuff

And if you started out using that what do you use now?
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: kbeitz on March 11, 2019, 03:06:46 PM
Then I built this....

Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on March 11, 2019, 03:07:08 PM
Then I built this...

Too much of a pain to position on my set up I think. Those are all over craigs list..
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on March 11, 2019, 03:09:30 PM
Then I built this....

Now this one is nice. But I load on one side of my mill , and unload on the other, it would get in the way..
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Crusarius on March 11, 2019, 03:32:30 PM
no hooks. two ways you can do it.

1. wrap the strap around the log then over itself for at least 1/2 more wrap usually more if you are going to just use friction. Then use your tractor engine hoist high lift jack whatever to lift the end of the strap. Make sure you wrap it so us you pull and the log rolls out from the wrap it is rolling towards the backstops. This can get ugly fast if done backwards :)

2. with a loop on the end of the strap you can run the strap through itself then around the log. wrap however many turns you want and same lifting technique as above.

both these techniques work very well and are very controllable. In fact instead of lifting the strap you could pull it to the side or pull it straight down. I find lifting is usually quite a bit easier than trying to pull it. But it also depends on what you have to lift with. I guess in the end this technique is not much different that using a cant hook. But it is a ton easier on the body. and less likely to roll on you as you are setting the clamps.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Tom the Sawyer on March 11, 2019, 05:15:44 PM
A.O. 
Good job on getting that big log converted into boards.  There are a lot of little workarounds that you will learn as you go.  The bad news is... now you know it was within the limits of your mill and you'll have to find something bigger.   ;D
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on March 11, 2019, 05:52:04 PM
A.O. 
Good job on getting that big log converted into boards.  There are a lot of little workarounds that you will learn as you go.  The bad news is... now you know it was within the limits of your mill and you'll have to find something bigger.   ;D

Thanks

NOOOOOOOOOO.... ok, maybe.

I've done bigger longer, not bigger around though. And not really sure I want to. 18 inchers are a good size for me.. but if I stumble on one...
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Crusarius on March 12, 2019, 06:21:23 AM
I built my sawmill bed 24' long thinking thats plenty. Now I am thinking 6' extension so I can cut the roof joists for my shop. I need 22'.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on March 12, 2019, 06:29:56 AM
I built my sawmill bed 24' long thinking thats plenty. Now I am thinking 6' extension so I can cut the roof joists for my shop. I need 22'.

My bed is 19'2"which lets me cut 16'6".. not sure if I'll ever need longer or not.

And those longer logs are pretty unwieldly...
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Crusarius on March 12, 2019, 06:39:00 AM
especially with my manual mill. Loading them will be a challenge but rolling them will also be. this is when I think I need to get the winch, and ramps built. at least then I can load and flip without killing myself.

Definitely should be doing toe boards to.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on March 12, 2019, 07:12:32 AM
especially with my manual mill. Loading them will be a challenge but rolling them will also be. this is when I think I need to get the winch, and ramps built. at least then I can load and flip without killing myself.

Definitely should be doing toe boards to.

I use a little floor jack for my toe board, would like to figure out something better..
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Crusarius on March 12, 2019, 07:39:11 AM
I have been looking at using threaded rod and a ladder type frame that when you crank the threaded rod lifts the bottom. that way I can have a crank on both sides of the mill so I can raise and lower from sawdust side or load side. It seems I spend alot of time on both sides of the mill so I want to minimize my need to keep going around it.

I should probably just buy another battery for the bed and run everything off electric motors. with wireless remotes. but thats a future possible project. Maybe V2.0 :)
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: kbeitz on March 12, 2019, 08:36:14 AM
I put a scissor jack under my toe board lifter and extended the handle.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: kbeitz on March 12, 2019, 08:39:41 AM
My total cut length is now 26 feet 6 inches and I'm thinking of making my third extension.

Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on March 12, 2019, 08:40:52 AM
I put a scissor jack under my toe board lifter and extended the handle.

Hmmm, I like that set up. Doesn't that arrangement cause that scissor jack to have to lean as its going up?
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Crusarius on March 12, 2019, 08:44:37 AM
K, that was my original plan. and it still may be the final. you ever have problems lifting the logs?
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on March 12, 2019, 08:53:04 AM
So they have this one at harbor freight, Might have to look into it for a better toe board set up.

https://www.harborfreight.com/2-1-2-half-ton-trailer-stabilizer-jack-96406.html

I could even crank it with my impact driver...
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Crusarius on March 12, 2019, 09:26:33 AM
I have been using my impact. be careful with that. with heavy loads I noticed the threads starting to gall.

if you go to any junkyard you can pull scissor jacks out of cars all day long for almost nothing.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: kbeitz on March 12, 2019, 05:29:34 PM
I have been using my impact. be careful with that. with heavy loads I noticed the threads starting to gall.

if you go to any junkyard you can pull scissor jacks out of cars all day long for almost nothing.

I agree with the junkyard...

 I put one bolt at the top and one bolt at the bottom both with a locking nut. This way you can keep the bolts loose and let the jack tilt... I had not problems with any stripping. I keep them greased up. It will lift any size log with no problems and the rollers lets you shift the log one way or the other very easy. I got three of them on my mill.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Crusarius on March 13, 2019, 06:43:36 AM
K I only had problems with the threads when I was using my M18 1/2" impact on them. probably didn't help that the threads were pretty dry. once I greased them they seemed much better. It was when I was picking up the full sawmill bed so I could move stuff around.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on March 13, 2019, 08:01:45 AM
I'm not even sure where a junkyard is around here.. but I know right where 5 Harbor Freights are! ;-)

Last time I went to a "pic & pull" junk yard, they had no inventory list and charged 2 bucks just to go look! EVERYTHING they had was so stripped of parts (they had their own crew that did nothing but strip cars) I could find nothing useful, left a bad taste in my mouth! What a racket!!


I'd prefer just to go to HF....
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Crusarius on March 13, 2019, 08:54:38 AM
know anyone getting rid of a car? or an old junk car parked somewhere. They all have jacks in them up till about 2008 I think. Even the cheap rotary bottle jacks in some of them are really nice. They have a telescoping 3 section jack that goes up pretty high. That works very well to.

I still prefer the scissor jacks. I feel they are more stable.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: furu on March 13, 2019, 10:29:06 AM
know anyone getting rid of a car? or an old junk car parked somewhere. They all have jacks in them up till about 2008 I think.

Since I don't have any vehicles that are newer than 2006 (my used 1 ton Ram) what happened to jacks after 2008. 
What do you do if you get a flat tire? 
Call for road side assistance?
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on March 13, 2019, 11:15:45 AM
Since I don't have any vehicles that are newer than 2006 (my used 1 ton Ram) what happened to jacks after 2008. 
What do you do if you get a flat tire? 
Call for road side assistance?

A button on the dash that will hydraulically lift any corner of the car/truck.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Crusarius on March 13, 2019, 11:29:14 AM
manufacturers started just putting a can of fix a flat in the spare tire compartment. saves them money and weight.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: furu on March 13, 2019, 11:33:10 AM
Ok so I will be stupid.  How does hydraulics lift the left rear unless it puts a "foot" down on the ground to lift up? 

I don't understand how anything other than a square boxy small car could be made to lift the entire car on the remaining three points of ground contact and not be very tippy and thus unsafe to get your arms under to change the tire.

Another thing to break I suppose.  When you say hydraulic lift I presume pneumatic as I don't see a hydraulic system being economical as an add on.

Just did a quick google search and found out a lot 40% of cars don't even have spare tires anymore.  Great!!

Fix a flat I was told by a tire shop makes the tire un-repairable for patching due to the sealant goo.   Another way to sell more tires I suppose.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on March 13, 2019, 11:40:24 AM
Ok so I will be stupid.  How does hydraulics lift the left rear unless it puts a "foot" down on the ground to lift up? 

I don't understand how anything other than a square boxy small car could be made to lift the entire car on the remaining three points of ground contact and not be very tippy and thus unsafe to get your arms under to change the tire.

Another thing to break I suppose.  When you say hydraulic lift I presume pneumatic as I don't see a hydraulic system being economical as an add on.

Just did a quick google search and found out a lot 40% of cars don't even have spare tires anymore.  Great!!

Fix a flat I was told by a tire shop makes the tire un-repairable for patching due to the sealant goo.   Another way to sell more tires I suppose.

Just hosing you on the hydraulics thing. >:D >:D

We have a 2010 truck, and a 2014 car, both came with jacks.. Dodges of course. Not sure on the other vehicles out there, cant speak for them.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Crusarius on March 13, 2019, 11:45:53 AM
AO your not wrong. Some high end cars have talked about implementing those. I think they are linear transducers they are using. so electric/.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: furu on March 13, 2019, 12:19:59 PM
Well motor home RV's have automatic leveling jacks on all four corners. 
I suppose that you could put them on a car but the complexity and the cost would be bad. 

But as I said I did find confirmation that they are not putting jacks and/or spares in many new cars. 
I would never buy one or if I was forced to do so, I woulds buy a spare and jack and fill the tiny worthless trunk with my spare and jack. 
I would not be caught out depending upon a roadside service to show up in 5 hours to fix a flat.  Not in the areas I find myself.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Crusarius on March 13, 2019, 12:22:22 PM
I do think that you can get a spare tire and jack as an option.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: kbeitz on March 13, 2019, 03:18:38 PM
Dont need no jack.....

Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on March 20, 2019, 07:43:59 AM
Well motor home RV's have automatic leveling jacks on all four corners. 
I suppose that you could put them on a car but the complexity and the cost would be bad. 

But as I said I did find confirmation that they are not putting jacks and/or spares in many new cars. 
I would never buy one or if I was forced to do so, I woulds buy a spare and jack and fill the tiny worthless trunk with my spare and jack. 
I would not be caught out depending upon a roadside service to show up in 5 hours to fix a flat.  Not in the areas I find myself.

I agree completely, cannot/will not have to depend on others for something like that!
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on March 20, 2019, 07:55:27 AM
So, back to the original thread context..

I'm putting in a new pistol range on the place..

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So I need some 5/4 deck boards for my shaded bench, but first another 12 foot skid is in order so I cut the materials and got on it..





Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Ox on March 20, 2019, 08:27:01 AM
 8)  Well done.

Good idea with the tarp for sawdust.

What did you use to coat the posts on your shooting shed?

I'm still envious of your trees.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on March 20, 2019, 08:43:35 AM
8)  Well done.

Good idea with the tarp for sawdust.

What did you use to coat the posts on your shooting shed?

I'm still envious of your trees.
Thanks, and yes the tarp works well, I have a sawdust pile about where I was standing for that picture. When it gets too big I haul it off and spread it on my food plots. You can see it here
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Well bring a chainsaw and come on over! ;-)  YES, I like these trees, great construction lumber..
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Ox on March 20, 2019, 02:57:23 PM
It looks black in the posts pic but shows green on the bucket...am I going color blind?
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on March 20, 2019, 04:08:33 PM
It looks black in the posts pic but shows green on the bucket...am I going color blind?

Here's a better pic of the posts in the sun before I planted them.. it was a bit shady there.

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So definitely green, although it comes out of the bucket and goes on blue! Seconds later it starts turning green.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Ox on March 21, 2019, 09:39:12 AM
Cool.  Hopefully it works good for ya.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: kbeitz on March 23, 2019, 12:17:55 PM
Today was the first dry day in the forty's ...
Sawed up some walnut today. First cuts for the year.
I got a lot to do...
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Ox on March 23, 2019, 03:27:24 PM
Still updating and fabricating the mill.  Still a lot to do, but definite big steps are completed as well.  Weather sucks lately so I wouldn't be milling anyway.

I foresee a larger engine in my future.  The Predator twin looks good and has fabulous reviews and some quick and easy ways to get more power out of it.  I reckon I oughta be able to get at least 25 hp out of it.  I'm sure it'll help me keep straighter lumber with all the knotty pine I have to saw.  But it's an 800 dollar bill.  Que butt clench.

I've thought about running a second 13 hp engine alongside the one I already have.  I'd have at least 26 hp and less money involved, but more messing around making a spot for it to live on the mill and belting it up.  And if I "hot rod" those 13s I should be able to get around 28 or 30 hp total which ain't a bad thing.  Plus, the 13 already feels more like a 15, so there's that.  I'd have quite a bit more ponies for less up front money, but more time and materials (another belt, another centrifugal clutch, a double pulley or another pulley for driven band wheel) so the money will probably even out but the power will be around 20 to 25% more I think. 

These are things that make me go "hmmmmmm.........".

Anybody got any opinions or foresight on all this?
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: kbeitz on March 23, 2019, 03:47:22 PM
My sit up is using a 13hp Honda. Never once have I heard the engine slow down for a cut....
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Crusarius on March 23, 2019, 04:40:46 PM
I bought the 22hp predator from HF. Been great for me. was only $700 when I bought it. But definitely worth it. While your at it add power up and down. Its worth it.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on March 23, 2019, 06:16:05 PM
Still updating and fabricating the mill.  Still a lot to do, but definite big steps are completed as well.  Weather sucks lately so I wouldn't be milling anyway.

I foresee a larger engine in my future.  The Predator twin looks good and has fabulous reviews and some quick and easy ways to get more power out of it.  I reckon I oughta be able to get at least 25 hp out of it.  I'm sure it'll help me keep straighter lumber with all the knotty pine I have to saw.  But it's an 800 dollar bill.  Que butt clench.

I've thought about running a second 13 hp engine alongside the one I already have.  I'd have at least 26 hp and less money involved, but more messing around making a spot for it to live on the mill and belting it up.  And if I "hot rod" those 13s I should be able to get around 28 or 30 hp total which ain't a bad thing.  Plus, the 13 already feels more like a 15, so there's that.  I'd have quite a bit more ponies for less up front money, but more time and materials (another belt, another centrifugal clutch, a double pulley or another pulley for driven band wheel) so the money will probably even out but the power will be around 20 to 25% more I think. 

These are things that make me go "hmmmmmm.........".

Anybody got any opinions or foresight on all this?


Ox, got any pictures??
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Ox on March 24, 2019, 08:56:50 AM
Crusarius - already did power up/down and power feed upgrades!

AO - I'll have pics when it's done and set up outside this spring sometime.  I owe the forum some pics of the equipment and mill because I said I would quite a while back.

Kbeitz - I've seen your mill running in one of your videos - I mill a *bit* faster than that and as such sometimes the knots will cause a momentary drop in rpm and will most often cause a little dip in the cut as well.  With a newly sharpened blade all is well but it doesn't take long to lose that razor edge.  Usually within an hour and then the small problems arise.  I realize if I allowed the blade to cut at a crawl it would likely be flat as a pancake but who's got time for that?  For the ultimate cut/performance/efficiency I believe you have to enter and exit the log at the same speed and same rpm all throughout the cut if possible.  The big boys do it this way and it takes power to do it.  I'm a pretty patient guy but not when it comes to watching a mill cut at a snail's pace.

Another pro for a twin engine setup would be redundancy.  I could still mill with the other running engine after taking off the non runner's belt until a fix is performed.  Plus the fact I'd have one of the only twin engine mills ever.  I enjoy being different.  There is no fun in being "just like everyone else". 
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Crusarius on March 25, 2019, 06:23:18 AM
you'll have to let me know what you think of the power feed. that is on my list but long ways down.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on March 25, 2019, 02:32:40 PM
Having second thoughts about a scissor jack for my toe board set up. I was hoping to use something without a pump up handle. I could stick it out the side of my bed and crank it up. But with a scissor jack as the jack goes up, so does the point at which you attach the crank handle, get it high enough and it would be unusable due to the bed getting in the way.. hmmm further thinking is necessitated ...
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Crusarius on March 25, 2019, 02:41:19 PM
you can still use it. as long as you have a universal connecting to the scissor jack the handle will just angle.

Or you do half a scissor jack. just the top half. Then you can either use a left and right threaded rod welded together to pull both sides in at the same time. Or fasten 1 side to a fixed point and use right hand threaded rod to pull the other side in. as it lifts the loge it will also pull it towards the stops.

I am actually working on the same thing as we speak. I think I will be doing a half scissor with single threaded rod pulling towards the backstops.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on March 25, 2019, 04:20:51 PM
Or you do half a scissor jack. just the top half. Then you can either use a left and right threaded rod welded together to pull both sides in at the same time. Or fasten 1 side to a fixed point and use right hand threaded rod to pull the other side in. as it lifts the loge it will also pull it towards the stops.

I am actually working on the same thing as we speak. I think I will be doing a half scissor with single threaded rod pulling towards the backstops.

And how would you mount that??
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: kbeitz on March 25, 2019, 04:41:00 PM
I used my scissor jack to lift my rollers. I also put universals on the handle.
Works great....
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: kbeitz on March 25, 2019, 04:42:30 PM
Crusarius - already did power up/down and power feed upgrades!

AO - I'll have pics when it's done and set up outside this spring sometime.  I owe the forum some pics of the equipment and mill because I said I would quite a while back.

Kbeitz - I've seen your mill running in one of your videos - I mill a *bit* faster than that and as such sometimes the knots will cause a momentary drop in rpm and will most often cause a little dip in the cut as well.  With a newly sharpened blade all is well but it doesn't take long to lose that razor edge.  Usually within an hour and then the small problems arise.  I realize if I allowed the blade to cut at a crawl it would likely be flat as a pancake but who's got time for that?  For the ultimate cut/performance/efficiency I believe you have to enter and exit the log at the same speed and same rpm all throughout the cut if possible.  The big boys do it this way and it takes power to do it.  I'm a pretty patient guy but not when it comes to watching a mill cut at a snail's pace.

Another pro for a twin engine setup would be redundancy.  I could still mill with the other running engine after taking off the non runner's belt until a fix is performed.  Plus the fact I'd have one of the only twin engine mills ever.  I enjoy being different.  There is no fun in being "just like everyone else". 

The only video I made was my first cut... I sure did run it slow that time. I run it much faster now.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: kbeitz on March 25, 2019, 04:46:47 PM
I got a good start on my second log arch today. I needed a smaller one to take out in the woods with my small loggen tractor.

Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Crusarius on March 25, 2019, 05:06:51 PM
And how would you mount that??


a piece of channel as a track and bolt it to the bottom of the trailer frame.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Crusarius on March 25, 2019, 05:08:35 PM
this is the left and right hand threaded version



you can change that up just by solid mounting 1 side and pulling the other towards it.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on March 26, 2019, 06:45:21 AM

a piece of channel as a track and bolt it to the bottom of the trailer frame.

No trailer, mine is stationary in the back yard..
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Crusarius on March 26, 2019, 06:52:16 AM
ok. a piece of channel bolted inside the rials :)
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on March 26, 2019, 09:31:18 AM
I like this guy, a bit pricey though!!

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01JRZK6U2/ref=sspa_dk_detail_0?psc=1&pd_rd_i=B01JRZK6U2&pd_rd_w=aknhZ&pf_rd_p=80559f3c-f83b-49c1-8a72-40f936e9df7a&pd_rd_wg=JNAcS&pf_rd_r=CXV7H0KXJ5WZT43FNC40&pd_rd_r=86537254-4fd3-11e9-95d0-2f4c1992017f
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Crusarius on March 26, 2019, 09:37:08 AM
if you want electric you can get an electric scissor jack for quite a bit less.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on March 26, 2019, 10:05:26 AM
if you want electric you can get an electric scissor jack for quite a bit less.

I saw that.. not necessarily looking for electric, just something I found in my search.
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Post by: kbeitz on March 26, 2019, 07:39:08 PM
Today I seen that Harbor freight sells scissor jacks for $24.00
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Post by: moodnacreek on March 26, 2019, 08:10:02 PM
At my mill today I took the 4cyl. Wisconsin off the slabwood saw and started to mount the 2 cyl. 31 h.p. Duetz  diesel.  I should convert the slab saw to electric but then I would have to run the 270 h.p. generator to cut up the slabs.
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Post by: kbeitz on March 27, 2019, 06:11:47 PM
Painted....

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Post by: Crusarius on March 28, 2019, 06:52:31 AM
how wide is that?
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Post by: kbeitz on March 28, 2019, 07:00:22 AM
how wide is that?

34"
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Post by: A.O. on March 28, 2019, 08:12:45 AM
Today I seen that Harbor freight sells scissor jacks for $24.00

I stopped by a HF last week, they sell 2 different ones, the 35 dollar job is way more heavy duty, and has a mounting plate top and bottom.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Crusarius on April 01, 2019, 06:57:29 AM
well I didn't do anything at the mill. But I did stuff to the mill.

From the time I built it till now I have always been disappointed with the metal on metal slide mechanism for the mast.So this weekend I added some cam followers to the sliding part to stop the metal sliding on metal. Primary reason for this was to prolong the life of the paint. But the Metal shavings that I had coming off the mast was concerning.

Of course while adding the cam followers I found I did not have the necessary clearance to go all the way down. So I ended up having to space the acme threaded rod out an inch. I think this actually helped me. The threaded rod is now closer to the heavy side of the mill lifting more centered on the load.

Initial testing when I built the mill was 2m 37s from bottom to top. Testing yesterday was 1m 17s till the chain hit the muffler. I am estimating another 15-20 seconds for full lift. I need to change my chain setup to clear the muffler.

I blew the fuse on my multi meter testing the amp draw when I first built it so I was unable to test again but I am sure it is considerably less. Initial measurements said 12 amps. I would hope now is about 7. But I need to get a new fuse and find out.
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Post by: moodnacreek on April 01, 2019, 09:23:40 AM
My sit up is using a 13hp Honda. Never once have I heard the engine slow down for a cut....
                You ain't feeden fast enough.                      Question, do you guys with the w.m. style band mills really need clutches?
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Post by: A.O. on April 01, 2019, 09:42:15 AM
                You ain't feeden fast enough.                      Question, do you guys with the w.m. style band mills really need clutches?

Sure, you don’t want that blade running all the time.
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Post by: Ox on April 01, 2019, 09:45:03 AM
I suppose technically you could just leave the blade spinning while you load logs or take flitches off.  I tend to throttle down after a cut just to keep the revolutions of wheels/blades/bearing to a minimum.  Some guys never throttle down, even when clutches are used, but only at the end of the day or for lunch or something.  Personal preference I would reckon.

I can see on a manual mill that safety could be a concern.  A blade spinning around is dangerous as hell when one is turning a log or something in front of it.  One mis-step or losing balance could be a horrible situation if you fall in the wrong direction.  On a powered mill all the functions are so quick and easy, leaving the blade spinning might be easier on everything.  I've seen it done both ways and have done it both ways. 

I can see on cold days where trying to pull start an engine with all the wheels and bearings and such trying to spin in the freezing cold would be impossible so a clutch is mandatory here.

In the end, all I know is most every mill out there has a clutch of some sort, whether centrifugal or belt tensioned or electric PTO, or....?  For whatever reason apparently it's just a good idea.  :)
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Post by: A.O. on April 01, 2019, 10:01:36 AM
 My only experience is with a small manual mill, never tried any of that fancy automatic stuff  :o  ;D
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Post by: kbeitz on April 01, 2019, 11:26:07 AM
I added cam followers to my mast to try to stop small osculations and it helped a lot.

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Post by: moodnacreek on April 01, 2019, 12:44:12 PM
Thanks for the answer, Kbeitz.  My remark about feed speed is true but not so easy or even possible to do. Feeding faster is always desirable right to the point of plugging or bogging the motor. The one advantage that surprised me is how much longer the teeth stay sharp. On a circle with certain logs you almost have to hold back when the log self feeds. That is what the hook angle does.            I here you guys talk of your engines all the time and I wondered about the need for a clutch and also the weight [of the engine]  There are so many old Wisconson's out there , I must have a half dozen. Wood miser offered the small block V4 at one time.
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Post by: Crusarius on April 15, 2019, 10:37:40 AM
I am now officially dual width. I can run a 158" or 176" band.

158" band = 30" between guides.
176" band = 40" between the guides.

I made a nice little saddle that rests on the sawframe for my hydraulic tensioner extension. When not in use it bolts to another spot on the frame.

Just need to square away idle side guard and adjustable blade guide then its time for final paint.
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Post by: A.O. on April 15, 2019, 12:27:46 PM
I am now officially dual width. I can run a 158" or 176" band.

158" band = 30" between guides.
176" band = 40" between the guides.

I made a nice little saddle that rests on the sawframe for my hydraulic tensioner extension. When not in use it bolts to another spot on the frame.

Just need to square away idle side guard and adjustable blade guide then its time for final paint.

Very nice, I think I have 21" between guides and 26" max for my saw. And I have absolutely ZERO desire to go any larger! ;D ::) I do not have the equipment or the strength to mess with that size materials! But more power to ya..
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Post by: Crusarius on April 15, 2019, 02:27:47 PM
I dunno how often I will use it but at least it is there. at a minimum it should make selling it easier.
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Post by: bandmiller2 on April 15, 2019, 07:15:15 PM
My home built band mill has a belt idler type of clutch that also serves as a brake when disengaged. It reduces the flexing of the bands and makes working around it a little safer. I could get by without it as the mill is powered by a 15 hp three phase motor but it saves wear on the magnetic starter and starting current draw. Frank C.
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Post by: moodnacreek on April 16, 2019, 06:35:56 AM
Frank, do you have electric on the chase also?
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Post by: bandmiller2 on April 17, 2019, 06:49:37 PM
Creeker, I have a Ford 6cyl. industrial diesel power unit. It is a British Ford Dagenham probably late 50's technology. Last owner supposedly overhauled the engine but the Simms inline injection pump is getting wheezy but still usable. Old mill, old engine, old tractor and ancient sawyer. Its the same engine used in Fordson major diesel tractors, only with two more cylinders. Frank C.
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Post by: moodnacreek on April 18, 2019, 05:30:42 PM
Frank, I always wanted to put a 401/6.6 Brazil [ford] diesel on my mill. They where a dime a dozen back when the school bus companies where letting them go and they last forever but I went generator/ electric motors instead. That was a lot of work and$ but now only one engine to care for.  Thinking of old time ford tractors, there used to be 48"-28 tooth, style 3 saws around from the days of small trees and fordson tractors for power.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: kbeitz on April 20, 2019, 04:01:12 PM
Well today I cut some thuja ... I never milled any of that before. This will be my first time. Has anyone tried making lumber out of it before?

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Post by: moodnacreek on April 20, 2019, 05:17:33 PM
Are you kidding? That there is the nicest stuff you will ever saw.
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Post by: Ox on April 21, 2019, 06:42:53 AM
Never heard of thuja before.  Looks alot like cedar.
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Post by: kbeitz on April 21, 2019, 10:19:59 AM
Never heard of thuja before.  Looks alot like cedar.

Thuja, White cedar or arborvitae.... All the same thing...
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Post by: kbeitz on April 21, 2019, 03:41:55 PM
Easter.... Sawed Rock oak today.... Sure is heavy wood...
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Post by: A.O. on April 21, 2019, 03:55:57 PM
Easter.... Sawed Rock oak today.... Sure is heavy wood...

Chestnut oak then , Yes? I think I have some of that around here..
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on April 22, 2019, 08:40:00 AM
Seems like I spend way to much time cutting lumber for, and building skids to hold my lumber...

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Post by: kbeitz on April 23, 2019, 04:18:12 PM
Looks like I'm doing White Pine.... BIG load little jeep....
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Post by: A.O. on April 23, 2019, 04:20:20 PM
Looks like I'm doing White Pine.... BIG load little jeep....

Looks like its been laying around for a while..
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Post by: kbeitz on April 23, 2019, 05:32:39 PM
Looks like its been laying around for a while..

It's got 111 rings and it was cut down 10 years ago. So to was born in the 1800's ... I can't believe it's not rotten. Most of it's solid. I'm not sure how I'm going to cut it. It's 38" wide.
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Post by: Ox on April 23, 2019, 06:22:26 PM
A little chainsaw trimming is in order, eh?

AO - you make good pallets.
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Post by: moodnacreek on April 23, 2019, 07:50:58 PM
You will find out how solid it is when you cut it. I really can't stand old logs, guess that because there is so much wood around. People think blue stain is cute but they won't buy it.
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Post by: kbeitz on April 24, 2019, 12:24:42 AM
I cut it off the stump... The top was cut off 10 years ago... It cut hard..
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Post by: A.O. on April 24, 2019, 07:40:01 AM
A little chainsaw trimming is in order, eh?

AO - you make good pallets.

Thanks, I cant wait till I have enough to go around!
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Post by: A.O. on April 24, 2019, 05:57:18 PM
Cut a hickory tree down in my yard, finally got the logs to my mill, only cut one today..

Kind of like a cheap chocolate Easter Bunny!

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Post by: Ox on April 24, 2019, 07:54:22 PM
That's what some of my red maple looked like after the carpenter ants got to them.
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Post by: A.O. on April 24, 2019, 08:59:26 PM
That's what some of my red maple looked like after the carpenter ants got to them.

It was indeed full of ants! All the way up to some of the smaller branches even!!
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: kbeitz on April 25, 2019, 05:59:27 AM
My log pile is growing faster than I can cut...
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Post by: Crusarius on April 25, 2019, 06:19:10 AM
Hickory is one of my favorite woods. never know what your gonna see inside.
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Post by: Crusarius on April 25, 2019, 06:20:07 AM
KB are they just showing up or are you cutting them? I have the same problem I have a pretty large pile and a mill that is still in pieces. I need to hurry up and get the mill done so I can do some milling. Customer paying jobs keep getting in the way.
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Post by: moodnacreek on April 25, 2019, 06:49:41 AM
My log pile is growing faster than I can cut...
    This happens every spring. A month ago I had all the pine on sticks and then comes 2 truck loads. This must be sawn and sprayed for blue stain in spite of the fact that it is the busiest time of the year. Long hours, 7 days a week until it is done and pray no more pine until October.
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Post by: A.O. on April 25, 2019, 07:17:02 AM
Must be nice!! Pretty much all my logs are from trees I cut on my own property....
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Post by: kbeitz on April 25, 2019, 04:00:51 PM
It's been all free stuff for me... People calling me up and saying ...come and get them...
no charge. I don't even have to cut them down... Even Walnut...
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Crusarius on April 25, 2019, 04:17:09 PM
thats how I ended up with my first pile of logs. I need to make sure ppl know I am still looking for logs.
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Post by: Ox on April 26, 2019, 08:11:38 AM
It's been all free stuff for me... People calling me up and saying ...come and get them...
no charge. I don't even have to cut them down... Even Walnut...

Be ready to do some free milling for these folks down the road sometime.

"Remember when I GAVE YOU those free logs - the really, really nice ones?  Well..........I have some more I need made into boards and I was hoping the free logs will cancel out the sawmilling fees..."  At least this is how it is around here.
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Post by: A.O. on April 26, 2019, 08:11:55 AM
thats how I ended up with my first pile of logs. I need to make sure ppl know I am still looking for logs.

Ha! I tried to put out the word I was looking for logs and all I got was people wanting me to come help them remove them from property (some still standing) and people expecting me to pay for them!

First lady I had call me said she had a big tree that was taken down in her yard and wanted it gone, so I asked her about the location and she goes into this thing about her husband saying it should be worth about 60 cents a board foot!  HAHA!
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Post by: Crusarius on April 26, 2019, 08:27:16 AM
yea. with all these stupid BS reality shows everyone seems to think the junk in their yard is worth millions. have I ever mentioned how much I hate reality shows. They are anything but!!!!
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Post by: A.O. on April 26, 2019, 09:47:58 AM
yea. with all these stupid BS reality shows everyone seems to think the junk in their yard is worth millions. have I ever mentioned how much I hate reality shows. They are anything but!!!!

Yeah, the one thing I've always noticed about reality shows is there was NO reality involved at all!
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Post by: Crusarius on April 26, 2019, 12:59:51 PM
should call them fake drama.
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Post by: kbeitz on April 26, 2019, 03:56:18 PM
When people ask me to saw for them I say....
I can't even start to compete  with Home depot or Lowes...
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Post by: moodnacreek on April 26, 2019, 06:57:02 PM
You saw what you can get but open grown trees are not ideal for making lumber compared to forest grown.
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Post by: moodnacreek on April 27, 2019, 08:38:47 PM
K.B. is that a water wheel in your yard?  Today I sprayed and stacked pine from 8am to 8pm. I hate pine in the spring,
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Post by: kbeitz on April 27, 2019, 09:28:40 PM
K.B. is that a water wheel in your yard?  Today I sprayed and stacked pine from 8am to 8pm. I hate pine in the spring,
Yes.... I made it from a pizza oven...
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Post by: moodnacreek on April 28, 2019, 09:48:41 AM
Somewhere down south was a co. that made water wheels of steel until ww 2 or later.  Along the St. Lawrence river on the Canadian side is old Canada village. In season they operate a water powered sawmill, an up and down, direct connected to some kind of tub wheel. It is a cross between a turbine and water wheel, I really don't know the proper name for it. It sits in the raceway that has one hell of a flow below a big pond. This mill is quite a show.
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Post by: A.O. on April 28, 2019, 04:33:38 PM
K.B. is that a water wheel in your yard?  Today I sprayed and stacked pine from 8am to 8pm. I hate pine in the spring,

What do you spray them for/with?
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Crusarius on April 29, 2019, 12:11:15 PM
Getting closer to calling the mill done. Need to put some chain supports on it. and fix the belt tensioner I broke off. Then paint. Still need to add lights to the trailer one day but at least that is painted and good to go for what I need to do.
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Post by: Ox on April 29, 2019, 04:27:37 PM
Pics when done?  I will be putting up pics when I'm finally done with mine for a second time...
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Post by: moodnacreek on April 29, 2019, 07:07:45 PM
A.O. Using a fungicide for blue stain. If I skip this step [spring and summer] the boards will be hard to sell and embarrassing to show. Traditional pine sawing season is October to march. Once it gets around 50 degrees pine can blue or worse.
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Post by: A.O. on April 29, 2019, 08:02:06 PM
A.O. Using a fungicide for blue stain. If I skip this step [spring and summer] the boards will be hard to sell and embarrassing to show. Traditional pine sawing season is October to march. Once it gets around 50 degrees pine can blue or worse.

I cut pine all year, never had any blueing.. But I don't try to sell it either..
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Post by: Crusarius on April 30, 2019, 06:25:24 AM
I am hoping one of these days to actually do a writeup on the complete build process and put it on my website.
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Post by: A.O. on April 30, 2019, 06:38:40 AM
I am hoping one of these days to actually do a writeup on the complete build process and put it on my website.

So is this a new build or a rebuild to an existing mill?
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: moodnacreek on April 30, 2019, 06:53:27 AM
A.O. You are in South Carolina, cut pine, and don't know about the blue stain, that's impossible. It is a fungus that stain pine logs and lumber, more so in the south than north. It can turn the cut lumber black. There must be a different term for it in your area.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Crusarius on April 30, 2019, 07:14:24 AM
I started building a mill about a year ago. As I neared the end of the build I got in a hurry and was just slapping shit together. I forced myself to stop and just used it for a while. Now I finally had time to fix what I halfassed. So that is what I am doing now. I have a build thread on that other forum. But really do want to write a build article and put it on my website. Just need to dedicate some time to do it.

Still want to build a cantilever head mill as my V2.0. But right now this one will do. Since I am tight on money with 2 kids in daycare I am thinking about cutting up my pile of logs then listing this one for sale and building V2.0.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on April 30, 2019, 07:27:06 AM
A.O. You are in South Carolina, cut pine, and don't know about the blue stain, that's impossible. It is a fungus that stain pine logs and lumber, more so in the south than north. It can turn the cut lumber black. There must be a different term for it in your area.

Name notwithstanding my pine just doesn't seem to change color, I may get a light streak on occasion but that's about it.
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Post by: A.O. on April 30, 2019, 07:29:13 AM
I started building a mill about a year ago. As I neared the end of the build I got in a hurry and was just slapping shit together. I forced myself to stop and just used it for a while. Now I finally had time to fix what I halfassed. So that is what I am doing now. I have a build thread on that other forum. But really do want to write a build article and put it on my website. Just need to dedicate some time to do it.

Still want to build a cantilever head mill as my V2.0. But right now this one will do. Since I am tight on money with 2 kids in daycare I am thinking about cutting up my pile of logs then listing this one for sale and building V2.0.

Two kids in daycare... AHHHHHHHHH.. been there done that, about 27 years ago. :D
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Crusarius on April 30, 2019, 08:23:13 AM
yup. 24k a year. :( good news is the 4 year old is almost out. That should free up a little bit of money.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on April 30, 2019, 11:10:39 AM
yup. 24k a year. :( good news is the 4 year old is almost out. That should free up a little bit of money.

YEOWZA!!  Its gone up a lot since I did it!
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Crusarius on April 30, 2019, 11:48:46 AM
the only thing that makes it ok is its not a typical dump and run daycare. it is at RIT and is run like a school so they have set curriculum and schedules along with food.

So as much as I hate to pay for it at least they are learning and don't have the typical alcoholic sitting in the corner screaming at the kids that I have come to expect of most daycares in my area.
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Post by: moodnacreek on April 30, 2019, 12:07:20 PM
A.O. from what I understand, with all pine, in the south they either dip or fan shed fresh cut lumber. Because my operation is small I don't do either. Yellow pine stains worse than our native white. You must be doing something right.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on April 30, 2019, 12:58:57 PM
the only thing that makes it ok is its not a typical dump and run daycare. it is at RIT and is run like a school so they have set curriculum and schedules along with food.

So as much as I hate to pay for it at least they are learning and don't have the typical alcoholic sitting in the corner screaming at the kids that I have come to expect of most daycares in my area.

Right now my wife is the Chief Operations Officer for the largest Boys and Girls club in the state, that's the way they do it also, in fact most of them are set up in schools.

Yeah, we went through a few not-so-good ones back in the day!!!
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on April 30, 2019, 01:02:14 PM
A.O. from what I understand, with all pine, in the south they either dip or fan shed fresh cut lumber. Because my operation is small I don't do either. Yellow pine stains worse than our native white. You must be doing something right.

Talk about small, my "operation" is me in the back yard with my little manual saw mill. The reason I don't have problems with it is because I really don't know what I'm doing. Now that I've heard about this blue thing I'm sure it will ALL turn blue! …..  Thanks, thanks a lot!!   :o ;D
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: moodnacreek on April 30, 2019, 05:29:37 PM
That's how I started and still am a backyard mill but bursting at the seams. I ruined pine years ago and still do sometimes. Up here it is a beautiful thing to get fresh cut pine [ or any wood] in cold weather and saw and stick it long before April. The lumber well be flatter, cleaner and less checking.  Winter is the time to saw and I cram in as much sawing as I can do. Come warm weather I slow down but must stay ahead of spoilage.
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Post by: kbeitz on April 30, 2019, 06:03:07 PM
Destroyed two bands today. I got to find a way to hold small odd shaped chunks of logs...
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Ox on April 30, 2019, 07:07:03 PM
Wrap a chain around it.

Kidding!......kidding...
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Crusarius on May 01, 2019, 06:13:13 AM
KB, when you figure it out let me know. my cookie / shorts clamp was a failure so I cannibalized it for other stuff.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: moodnacreek on May 01, 2019, 06:42:11 AM
Wrap a chain around it.

Kidding!......kidding...
                          On the old up and down sawmills they dogged the log at the end and stopped just before the saw hit the iron dog. Each board was broken off the end of the log. So go ahead and chain it down.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: joasis on May 01, 2019, 07:23:07 AM
Thanks... After all that work and uploading a picture that I can't see.
I got to say it's just not worth it. Thanks anyway...

We have to figure something out. I am not a tech guy, and I picked the simple path for myself, using the free Xat download, and compress and resize pictures. I have not posted any in a while, but you might try it....you can crop and compress until you get a picture where it loads.....meanwhile, I will ask Kirk if we have some sort of change we can make to the forum to allow larger pictures?
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Post by: Kirk Allen on May 06, 2019, 11:15:10 PM
File size increased to 150,000 bytes.  If the steps are followed for uploading pics there should be no problems.  I know some have had a tough time figuring it out but unfortunately, I don't have any simpler solutions than following each step and it will work. I increased the size limit but again, that should not be an issue if steps are being followed.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Ox on May 07, 2019, 09:29:26 AM
If this hillbilly can get pics up I think anyone should be able to.  I just didn't think about what I was doing or why or how - I simply blindly followed the step by step procedure put up by furu (I think) and presto! the pics were up and looked decent.

Just trying to coax the coals into a fire...pics are cool...
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: mike p on May 08, 2019, 12:19:49 PM
Destroyed two bands today. I got to find a way to hold small odd shaped chunks of logs...

I've had some luck using a porta power pushing from the inside of rail to the small log but still not real good holding capacity
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: moodnacreek on May 08, 2019, 08:31:39 PM
How about lag bolt to a longer plank. Aluminum lags would be nice.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on May 09, 2019, 02:42:03 PM
Destroyed two bands today. I got to find a way to hold small odd shaped chunks of logs...

So I've done all of one stump to cut some "cookies" off it. I turned it over, screwed a piece of 3/4" plywood to the bottom then clamped the plywood to my bed and cut it that way.. not great but it worked.
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Post by: Ox on May 09, 2019, 03:16:55 PM
Hey...whatever works...if it looks stupid but works then it ain't stupid!
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Post by: A.O. on May 10, 2019, 01:23:09 PM
4x2's baby, 12 foot 4x2's... needed some more to build a couple more firewood racks!

PICTURES DELETED DUE TO PHOTO BUCKETS NEW POLCIES

Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on May 13, 2019, 02:48:59 PM
So I'm needing some 1x's for some siding I need to finish the inside of one of my buildings so back at my SYP
PICTURES DELETED DUE TO PHOTO BUCKETS NEW POLCIES

Got my cant, keeping it square..
And done, for today anyway..


And if you have a look here Richard, thanks for the tip on the drywall knife, much superior than the broom I've been using!
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: moodnacreek on May 13, 2019, 05:59:03 PM
That's a nice stacking job, seldom see it done right. I stacked cedar most of the day in the rain. At least I had dry sticks but not the best doing wet wood. I had 8 planks; 2x14 to 20, wane edge, 17' long sound, the rest 8 and 10 ' about 1000 bd. ft. I only saw cedar 1 or 2 days a year. One year I had 7000, half erc. and the other half Atlantic. Sometimes a little n. white or dawn redwood sneaks in. Cedar is fun compared to the locust I saw all the time.
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Post by: A.O. on May 13, 2019, 06:30:15 PM
That's a nice stacking job, seldom see it done right. I stacked cedar most of the day in the rain. At least I had dry sticks but not the best doing wet wood. I had 8 planks; 2x14 to 20, wane edge, 17' long sound, the rest 8 and 10 ' about 1000 bd. ft. I only saw cedar 1 or 2 days a year. One year I had 7000, half erc. and the other half Atlantic. Sometimes a little n. white or dawn redwood sneaks in. Cedar is fun compared to the locust I saw all the time.

Thanks.. I have the time to do it, I just cut for me so there's no rush.. And I only have to cut on nice days..

I probably saw about 95% loblolly pine, you can see them in the background in those pics.. Its what I have so its what I saw.
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Post by: Cutting Edge Saw Svc. on May 14, 2019, 05:04:12 AM

.... thanks for the tip on the drywall knife, much superior than the broom I've been using!



No Problem !!   ;)
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: moodnacreek on May 14, 2019, 12:10:52 PM
Wouldn't know a loblolly pine if I sawed one. In my area we are heavy to clay soil and pine poor so people want pine.  What I get [in pine] is tree service junk that I hate : open grown, crooked,  wind cracked, knots sticking out all over and poorly felled and bucked. Some times it comes from a plantation and is much better grown but so poorly handled. The guy with the picker truck likes to puncture every log on 4 sides because of the hard wood mentally , if any. I once had a professional logger and I mean the absolute best and he spoiled me. Lime disease ruined him and they are not making real loggers anymore. Sawmilling is interesting because every  time you go over another hill they do it different.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on May 14, 2019, 01:11:57 PM
Wouldn't know a loblolly pine if I sawed one. In my area we are heavy to clay soil and pine poor so people want pine.  What I get [in pine] is tree service junk that I hate : open grown, crooked,  wind cracked, knots sticking out all over and poorly felled and bucked. Some times it comes from a plantation and is much better grown but so poorly handled. The guy with the picker truck likes to puncture every log on 4 sides because of the hard wood mentally , if any. I once had a professional logger and I mean the absolute best and he spoiled me. Lime disease ruined him and they are not making real loggers anymore. Sawmilling is interesting because every  time you go over another hill they do it different.

Loblolly pine is one in the group of Southern Yellow pine, It grows straight, sheds its lower branches, so lots of time you can get clear or almost clear wood out of it.. great for construction lumber. It is everywhere here in South Carolina and the rest of the south east, planted as a crop and grown that way also. Plantation style as you referred to it. All of it that I get, I have cut down and moved so it is treated well. I've a hundred acres here of which probably 75% is loblolly pine forest.. a lifetime supply and then some

Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: furu on May 14, 2019, 03:39:36 PM

And if you have a look here Richard, thanks for the tip on the drywall knife, much superior than the broom I've been using!


Curiosity rises.  Is this tip for sawdust removal off the boards or is it for something else?
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on May 14, 2019, 04:20:38 PM
Curiosity rises.  Is this tip for sawdust removal off the boards or is it for something else?

Yes indeed, as I take boards off the mill I've been using a stiff little broom to get the excess sawdust off, he said to try a 12" drywall knife.. what a better way to do that job!
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Ox on May 14, 2019, 04:34:30 PM
Yep, the drywall scraper is the best and fastest way to get rid of sawdust off your boards.

Sawdust is where the mold likes to start, so it's worth it.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: moodnacreek on May 14, 2019, 06:50:12 PM
A.O., A good description of your L. pine, thanks. I respect that you know your natural resources as many have no interest in there surroundings . From the late 1920's to about 1950 red pine was planted on abandoned hay fields. Those plantings where a mistake as red pine [aka Norway]  grows very slow here. Much of it was never thinned. Now most of these lots have gone to development and the r. pine to the chipper but sometimes it would come to me. Very easy to handle and saw, a treat after fighting junk spruce and  gnarly hardwood. We technically have Virginia and short leaf pine here but it is rare. The good part is that a lot of the crazy stuff is more valuable than pine but you tend to appreciate what you don't have.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Tom the Sawyer on May 14, 2019, 08:18:43 PM
Yep, the drywall scraper is the best and fastest way to get rid of sawdust off your boards.

I did try the drywall scraper and found although it did a quick job of removing most of the sawdust, it didn't get it all and did not touch some areas with decay.  At home I use an air gun with my compressor, that really removes the dust, and fast.  On the road, a 12" bench brush is still what I use.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on May 15, 2019, 07:41:39 AM
A.O., A good description of your L. pine, thanks. I respect that you know your natural resources as many have no interest in there surroundings . From the late 1920's to about 1950 red pine was planted on abandoned hay fields. Those plantings where a mistake as red pine [aka Norway]  grows very slow here. Much of it was never thinned. Now most of these lots have gone to development and the r. pine to the chipper but sometimes it would come to me. Very easy to handle and saw, a treat after fighting junk spruce and  gnarly hardwood. We technically have Virginia and short leaf pine here but it is rare. The good part is that a lot of the crazy stuff is more valuable than pine but you tend to appreciate what you don't have.

Back in, I believe 1984 (I wasn't here yet) Hurricane Hugo came through spawning a bunch of tornadoes, this place was mostly hardwoods at the time but it was laid to waste. So it was cleaned up and the loblolly was planted. As told to me by the previous owners son.
So the only hardwoods I have are up by the house, along a riparian corridor , and down in the bottoms by the river. Kind of hard to get some of that stuff out of where it is located so my hardwoods I do cut are pretty much reserved to firewood. Yes if there is a nice log I'll put it on the mill, but mostly firewood.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on May 15, 2019, 07:45:32 AM
So yesterday I milled up some smaller scrubby loblolly logs, turned them into more materials for making skids and a table to cut branches and stuff into firewood so I don't have to work on or near the ground all the time to do it.
So its building day today..
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on May 23, 2019, 12:05:03 PM
Ok, so not really at my sawmill, but in my saw yard just past the mill...

(https://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh136/hunt4570/South%20Carolina/SAWMILL/IMG_0897_zps382ldk3o.jpg) (http://s255.photobucket.com/user/hunt4570/media/South%20Carolina/SAWMILL/IMG_0897_zps382ldk3o.jpg.html)
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Crusarius on May 23, 2019, 03:55:37 PM
wheres the marshmallows?
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Post by: A.O. on May 23, 2019, 05:44:45 PM
wheres the marshmallows?

you were supposed to bring them, where were you?
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Crusarius on May 25, 2019, 01:06:59 PM
Currently I am in somerset PA. Am I getting closer?
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on May 25, 2019, 02:21:10 PM
Currently I am in somerset PA. Am I getting closer?

Maybe, I don't know where you were before..
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Crusarius on May 28, 2019, 05:53:26 AM
canadice ny

Now I am in clifton springs ny.

later today will be in phelps ny.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on May 28, 2019, 06:24:14 AM
canadice ny

Now I am in clifton springs ny.

later today will be in phelps ny.

Now I'm in Kershaw SC

Later today I'll be in well.... Kershaw SC >:D

And yes PA would be closer I think!
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Kirk Allen on May 28, 2019, 10:21:03 PM
My weekend was busy playing catch up and cutting some power poles.  Douglas Fir and Eastern Red Cedar.



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Post by: A.O. on May 29, 2019, 06:28:59 AM
Nice couple videos, and some nice lumber.. those aluminum bug treatment deals don't mess up your bands?
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Kirk Allen on May 29, 2019, 08:21:09 AM
Nope.  They are thinner than a pop can.  You don't even know you hit them.
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Post by: Ox on May 29, 2019, 08:56:10 AM
It sure is amazing how good the lumber can look out of those old poles.  We had some guys around here doing that with a Turner Mills mill a while back.  Similar results.

Are you taking any steps to make sure there's no hardware left in them?  Like a metal detector or something?

What is the HP rating on that Kohler twin?

Thanks for sharing the videos - good stuff.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Kirk Allen on May 29, 2019, 01:09:41 PM
Customer Owned and he swears they are clean.  If not, he pays for blades!  So far so good.............but now with that said I will probably hit hardware in the next 10 I cut!   :o

Kohler is 25hp
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Tom the Sawyer on May 29, 2019, 01:22:38 PM
Sawyers should be aware that power poles treated with creosote are considered hazardous waste by the EPA and have restrictive guidelines for the handling and disposal of waste products, including the sawdust.  It is also a health hazard,
"Short-term exposure to creosote can cause skin, eye and respiratory irritation; longer-term exposure may cause organ damage or cancer. …" according to the MSDS for those products.

I generally make a practice of not milling power poles, although I have milled certain ones where they were western red cedar and the creosote soaked butts were removed before the poles were transported to my mill.  The aluminum insect treatment tubes don't cause any problems for the blade, they are slightly thicker than aluminum foil, but I would still recommend gloves and dust masks.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on May 29, 2019, 01:56:15 PM
Yeah, and kaliforniastan banned plastic straws.. ;D
I've been stocking up!! >:D
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Ox on May 29, 2019, 02:29:01 PM
NY banned plastic bags.  I'm not stocking up.  Have bags for days....
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Crusarius on May 29, 2019, 04:11:50 PM
I really wish these idiots would stop banning niceties and start going after the assholes that are littering causing the bans.

How bout this $2500 fine for littering. 10% of that goes to the person who turned them in.

That might help curb it.

Just like guns. just keep banning them that will make the criminals turn them in so they can be law abiding citizens.

I hate ppl!

[end rant] :)
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on May 29, 2019, 05:30:09 PM
I really wish these idiots would stop banning niceties and start going after the assholes that are littering causing the bans.

How bout this $2500 fine for littering. 10% of that goes to the person who turned them in.

That might help curb it.

Just like guns. just keep banning them that will make the criminals turn them in so they can be law abiding citizens.

I hate ppl!

[end rant] :)

Agreed.. I have about 3700 feet of road frontage, about once a month I have to take a day (today) and pick up all the worthless garbage strewn long the road by worthless garbage! I've gotten as much as 8 garbage bags full!
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Crusarius on May 30, 2019, 05:57:57 AM
That sux. it really angers me to.

Might as well add the ppl on government assistance to the list. They should never get a free paycheck. There are millions of miles of roads in this country that are plastered with garbage. make them pick up the garbage if they want their money.

Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on May 30, 2019, 06:24:24 AM
That sux. it really angers me to.

Might as well add the ppl on government assistance to the list. They should never get a free paycheck. There are millions of miles of roads in this country that are plastered with garbage. make them pick up the garbage if they want their money.

Yeah, make em pick up garbage , pass a drug test , and speak English!!

Oh yeah, make sure they are legal, if not... REPORT and DEPORT!!
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Ox on May 30, 2019, 08:57:36 AM
I totally agree with both of you.
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Post by: moodnacreek on May 30, 2019, 07:14:03 PM
All my life I have had road frontage to clean up. The NYS DOT here throw the dead deer in onto private property and guess who burys them in warm weather? The power co. trims the trees on 3 sides of me and leaves the brush, the only cure for this problem is to allow nothing to grow so they don't come back. The cleanest people are slobs when driving there cars but guess who they call dirty?
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Ox on May 30, 2019, 07:41:29 PM
The only answer to all of that:  People SUCK.  Most of 'em.  Most all of 'em...
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on May 30, 2019, 07:50:57 PM
All my life I have had road frontage to clean up. The NYS DOT here throw the dead deer in onto private property and guess who burys them in warm weather? The power co. trims the trees on 3 sides of me and leaves the brush, the only cure for this problem is to allow nothing to grow so they don't come back. The cleanest people are slobs when driving there cars but guess who they call dirty?

Well... I'd just toss those deer back out in the road, but that's how I am!!

Years ago one of my neighbors did a great job of clearing their side of the fence, nice and wide so they could drive it with a tractor or 4 wheeler or something... Problem was they threw all the brush over the fence onto my side!! Took me 3 weeks to throw it all back over the fence and block up all the nice work they did!!
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Ox on May 31, 2019, 08:35:19 AM
See?  People suck.  How arrogant, self serving and selfish the brush throwing behavior was.  I personally wouldn't have thrown the brush back, but contacted the owner personally, in person, face to face, and ask politely but firmly "Why did you throw all your scrub brush over onto my property?  It needs to be cleared out and I'm not picking up after you.  Why'd you think it was ok to do that?" 

What happened after you threw it back?
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on May 31, 2019, 10:06:14 AM
See?  People suck.  How arrogant, self serving and selfish the brush throwing behavior was.  I personally wouldn't have thrown the brush back, but contacted the owner personally, in person, face to face, and ask politely but firmly "Why did you throw all your scrub brush over onto my property?  It needs to be cleared out and I'm not picking up after you.  Why'd you think it was ok to do that?" 

What happened after you threw it back?

They never moved it and I never heard from them...
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Crusarius on May 31, 2019, 12:17:11 PM
Well back on topic. I am about to head out to the shop and start tearing the mill apart for paint. and to finish some welds that are still just tacks.

Hopefully I can have a very productive day and get it all torn down and maybe 1 coat on all the surfaces the parts are not sitting on. If I am lucky I will get the full carriage primed this weekend and it will have a week to cure before color goes on it.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on May 31, 2019, 02:11:03 PM
Well back on topic. I am about to head out to the shop and start tearing the mill apart for paint. and to finish some welds that are still just tacks.

Hopefully I can have a very productive day and get it all torn down and maybe 1 coat on all the surfaces the parts are not sitting on. If I am lucky I will get the full carriage primed this weekend and it will have a week to cure before color goes on it.

Cool, pics will be expected!;-)
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on May 31, 2019, 02:29:02 PM
Been hot here, high 90s so haven't been out to the mill lately. BUT... Richard, Cutting edge on here, got me a couple 4 degree blades to try,
so hot or not I'll be firing up my saw next week. Got a stack of oak and hickory to try them out on, and I'll probably have to drop a couple loblolly's also.

Thanks Richard
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Crusarius on May 31, 2019, 07:14:40 PM
well that was not at all what I expected to get done today. I went out to the shop, managed to get it cleaned up enough to start thinking about teardown and paint. Then the wife came out and we started talking about the garden and when we want to plant since we haven't yet. so I got the tractor out with the box blade put the ripper teeth all the way down then drug it through the garden to get all of last years weeds out. Then decided to take care of the mess of a flower garden at the house, then after that started wondering about tilling and planting.

So I ran the box blade through the garden. tilled the garden. fixed the flower bed cleaned the shop and spent some time fishing in the pond with wife and kids.

I got a ton of stuff done I wasn't even planning on doing. the finishing move for the day was to take both kids for a ride on the tractor. I hope tomorrow can be this good.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Crusarius on June 03, 2019, 10:53:42 AM
Well, here is progress so far.

woh, really big picture.

(http://www.rockmodified.com/smf2/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=345.0;attach=953;image)
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on June 03, 2019, 03:26:19 PM
Well, here is progress so far.

woh, really big picture.

(http://www.rockmodified.com/smf2/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=345.0;attach=953;image)

Picture?? I don't see no steenkin picture!
 :(
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Crusarius on June 04, 2019, 06:05:12 AM
crap. must have posted it in members only area on my forum? Please hold.

well. NM I need to setup a gallery on my forum so I have easier access to posting photos. I will get finished photos up here not just primer photos.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: kbeitz on June 06, 2019, 07:21:47 PM
Today at the mill I had a BIG snapper climb up out of the creek bank and he/she started digging holes in my saw dust pile. She looked kinda funny with an ax sticking out of her back... I thing she was getting ready to lay eggs. Not on my land....
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on June 06, 2019, 08:15:02 PM
Today at the mill I had a BIG snapper climb up out of the creek bank and he/she started digging holes in my saw dust pile. She looked kinda funny with an ax sticking out of her back... I thing she was getting ready to lay eggs. Not on my land....

What did it ever do to you?
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: kbeitz on June 07, 2019, 03:19:02 AM
They will eat up all the fish out of your pond and I got a small dog thats already missing one leg. They are a very dangerous mouth snapping appendage reducing I don't care what I bite animal. Nasty....   
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on June 07, 2019, 06:21:16 AM
They will eat up all the fish out of your pond and I got a small dog thats already missing one leg. They are a very dangerous mouth snapping appendage reducing I don't care what I bite animal. Nasty....

They will definitely NOT eat up all the fish in your pond, but they will clean up the sick and dying ones.. I'm a turtle fan... and have lots of them in my ponds, AND lots of fish!
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: kbeitz on June 08, 2019, 08:02:17 PM
Sorry to differ. But any farmer in our area tells any pond owner to shoot the snappers or they will clean you out. Sorry but I've seen it happen. I love turtles but not snappers. Anything as mean as a snapper wont live on my farm. I'll help a normal turtle off the road any day... a snapper I'll drive over it...

Snapping turtles are carnivores and will eat anything they can take a bite out of.

Snapping turtles kill other turtles by decapitation.

They will kill all you'r ducks and geese...

They eat my frogs... Much rather have frogs...

Snapping turtles are blamed for the deaths of aquatic birds.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: mike p on June 23, 2019, 08:47:07 AM
as a young teenager used to go over to the farmers Pond and he would Supply us with 22 shells at his expense as long as we use them to shoot Turtles out of his Ponds. They will clean out your fish
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on June 23, 2019, 09:46:35 AM
I have lots of turtles in my ponds.. and lots of fish!

Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on June 23, 2019, 09:57:52 AM
FACT, instead of fiction, or old wives tales...

https://agrilifecdn.tamu.edu/fisheries/files/2013/10/Turtle-Control-in-Farm-Ponds.pdf

http://icwdm.org/handbook/reptiles/Turtles.asp

https://www.platinumlakemanagement.com/blog/should-i-remove-the-turtles-from-my-pond-and-how

http://extension.msstate.edu/news/extension-outdoors/2015/help-there-are-turtles-my-pond

https://www.solitudelakemanagement.com/blog/are-turtles-bad-for-ponds
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Ox on June 23, 2019, 02:14:12 PM
What's hanging off that fish's mouth?
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on June 23, 2019, 05:11:50 PM
What's hanging off that fish's mouth?

Nothing I see, unless you are talking about my ugly mug! ;D
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Ox on June 23, 2019, 06:57:32 PM
Almost looks like something darker hanging off his upper lip.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on June 23, 2019, 07:17:03 PM
Almost looks like something darker hanging off his upper lip.

Nope, that IS his upper lip...
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Crusarius on June 24, 2019, 06:40:36 AM
no work at the mill this weekend. I spent the weekend in coal township PA wheeling. had a good time. Now I need to find a new front ring and pinion for my jeep :)
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Ox on June 24, 2019, 08:25:33 AM
Jeeps and axles don't mix well during heavy off road use, do they?
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on June 24, 2019, 09:25:12 AM
no work at the mill this weekend. I spent the weekend in coal township PA wheeling. had a good time. Now I need to find a new front ring and pinion for my jeep :)

Too good of a time it sounds like! ;D
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Crusarius on June 24, 2019, 09:45:33 AM
can't really complain that front end has 170,000 very hard miles on it. The ring and pinion has been a trooper. I noticed last time I took the cover off I had a small chunk missing off a tooth. Now I am thinking it is a large chunk. I get alot of driveline slap every 4.1 revolutions of the wheel :)

Oh well. It was fun :)
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on June 24, 2019, 10:30:35 AM
My only ring and pinion encounter was on a 1970 AMC Javilin years go, broke a tooth and it locked up the rear end at 70 mph.. talk about a ride!!
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Crusarius on June 24, 2019, 10:37:16 AM
that is why I am glad I was in a trailer :) otherwise I would have pulled the front apart before the drive home.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: bandmiller2 on June 24, 2019, 07:03:18 PM
My first circular mill was set up beside a good sized brook, creek, stream, kill, branch ( choose the term for your area) with the sawdust pile just feet from the water. Snappers would lay- em coons would eat-em. The lady on the property had a dock and would feed bread to the snappers. If she stood on the dock the turtles would all show up. I've been told that when snappers get large and old they become vegetarians because their too slow to catch pray. Frank C.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Crusarius on July 01, 2019, 09:10:52 PM
So here is my progress as of sunday. all painted and started to reassemble just need to get belts on and all the electric back together. Then she be ready for a test drive.

(http://www.rockmodified.com/me/2019-06-30.jpg[/img

[img]www.rockmodified.com/me/2019-06-30.jpg)
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Crusarius on July 01, 2019, 09:11:44 PM
hmmm apparently we are having bad picture day again
 please standbye.
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Post by: Crusarius on July 01, 2019, 09:22:28 PM
ok nm the damn pictures. here is links

http://www.rockmodified.com/me/2019-06-30.jpg (http://www.rockmodified.com/me/2019-06-30.jpg)

http://www.rockmodified.com/me/2019-06-30 (1).jpg (http://www.rockmodified.com/me/2019-06-30 (1).jpg)
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Ox on July 02, 2019, 07:46:49 AM
Lots and lots of mods on that one.  Looks good.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Crusarius on July 02, 2019, 12:46:37 PM
still not done but close enough to use again
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Crusarius on July 05, 2019, 05:44:54 PM
here it is. ALL DONE!

http://www.rockmodified.com/me/2019-07-05.jpg

Just need to make toe boards and log loader and do a test cut to check my alignment.

Hopefully get test cutting out of the way saturday or sunday. Of course just as soon as I get the mill done it starts raining out.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Ox on July 06, 2019, 07:35:37 AM
 8)

More pics when you get sawing so we can see how all your gadgets operate?
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on July 06, 2019, 08:14:06 AM
Very nice, Good job!
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Crusarius on July 06, 2019, 07:53:21 PM
hoping to get some good videos
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on July 07, 2019, 08:50:49 AM
So I ended up deleting my photo bucket account because they decided to put a watermark of their advertising on ALL my pictures, I'm working on deleting all my dead pictures, sorry bout that.

I just lost 10 ish years of pictures!!
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Crusarius on July 07, 2019, 09:16:14 AM
I have been trying to get a photo gallery setup on my site but its being a pain in the ass. And the shitty ass frontier service I have at home is not conducive to uploading since they cap the upload at 30k. And it has been very shitty connection for the last few years.

That watermark on your images is bullshit and should not be allowed.I wonder if the new terms of service give them the rights to your photos? Probably buried in there somewhere. Photobucket is going down quickly and thats just another nail in the coffin.

Now would be a great time to setup another photo sharing site. Could stand the potential to make good money off of it.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Ox on July 07, 2019, 01:51:39 PM
Please forgive my ignorance:

Why use a photo sharing service that you have to pay for (or even a free one)?  Why not store your pictures on those little thumb drives or another hard drive or something like that?  This way you have control over it and nobody can ever bastardize them.

Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Crusarius on July 07, 2019, 05:34:15 PM
can't share them via internet when they are on flash drive.

I successfully had many test cuts today. very happy with how its cutting.

Now to square the backstops and start making lumber again.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Ox on July 08, 2019, 07:32:50 AM
Why can't you get a picture off a thumb drive, copy it into a post and there it is - on the internet?  You still have your original on the thumb drive and a copy on the internet in your post, right?  I don't understand what the issue is...

Good to hear your test cuts worked well!  I remember when I built mine that I was totally anal about the alignment and blade tracking and it paid off.  It hasn't moved, either!  And it's been what - 4 years now?  I can't remember.  I think it's 4.  Anyway, I guess that shows it's a good enough design if the tracking doesn't move around.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Crusarius on July 08, 2019, 07:43:29 AM
Some forums do not allow the direct uploads. or limit it to the point its not worth doing.

I did spend a full day aligning everything in the garage before the rain quit long enough for me to go do some test cuts. definitely paid off. now I need some larger sacrificial logs to get the backstops aligned.

One of the test cuts was a 5" curved walnut limb. My wife was looking for some special pieces of wood for hanging pictures so I saw that and went, hmmmm. Then I threw it on the mill (mostly cause I could do it by hand and wanted more test cuts) I sliced it into 1/2" thick slabs. looked real nice and I think its going to be perfect for what she wanted.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on July 08, 2019, 08:07:11 AM
Yes, I've not found a way to copy and post a pic from my computer (or flash drive). I may not be doing much picture posting for a while till I can figure out a way to do it.

And I was pretty anal about aligning my saw too when I got it and every time I've checked it, it was still on.

This week I'm going to try to try out those 4 degree blades Richard got for me. I've not messed with my saw for a bit due to heat, and I've had family here at the house for ten days now. My siblings all come here to "Braun Paradise" every summer to get away for a week and swim, shoot, fish, and eat and whatever, then my daughters did a secret visit for my wife's 60th birthday so I've had a full house.. will get back to normal this week and see how those blades do...
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Crusarius on July 08, 2019, 08:31:59 AM
I have a ton of new blades I need to try. got the 4's from richard and a bunch from woodmizer. Probably $600 worth of blades. Last year I decided I really like the turbo 7's but we will see when I get a chance to really test them.

I should probably get a couple 176" blades so I can have some on hand when I get something I need wide for.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on July 08, 2019, 09:00:06 AM
I have a ton of new blades I need to try. got the 4's from richard and a bunch from woodmizer. Probably $600 worth of blades. Last year I decided I really like the turbo 7's but we will see when I get a chance to really test them.

I should probably get a couple 176" blades so I can have some on hand when I get something I need wide for.

All I have ever tried is 10 degree blades, three I got with my machine and a box of 10 ripper 37's I got from Jerrys resharp.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: Crusarius on July 08, 2019, 09:07:03 AM
I heard the ripper 37 is very similar to the turbo 7's I would be interested to know for sure. If they are the same they are cheaper as ripper 37's.
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on September 11, 2019, 11:43:01 AM
So the neighbor next to me is clearing about 50 acres of scrub to make a hayfield. The guy doing the work came by to let me know and have a look at our border line. While we were talking I asked if he would clear a small area for me and we could split some of the larger trees (he chips everything and that's where he makes his money). I ended up with 8 trees he dropped out in a field for me, all Loblollys or SYP. After topping them (they took that too) they averaged about 60 feet and 18-22 inches at the butt. I ended up getting 40 logs for my sawmill in 8,10,12,&16 footers. YAY.. should be good to go for a while!
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: mike p on September 11, 2019, 01:59:44 PM
40 logs of pine sounds great.
160 acres not a single pine on the place.
Some walnut, hickory & oak & oaks & more oaks
Title: Re: What did you do at your saw mill today?
Post by: A.O. on September 11, 2019, 02:11:05 PM
40 logs of pine sounds great.
160 acres not a single pine on the place.
Some walnut, hickory & oak & oaks & more oaks

I've lived where both are, hardwoods and softwoods. Normally I would say I prefer a hardwoods forest...but... with this little sawmill I now have an appreciation for all these pines I have. Mostly am looking for construction lumber and these pines are great for that! Not sure what I would do if I only had hardwoods, might not have bought the sawmill. I have some hardwoods here but mostly in my bottoms. I don't build furniture, I don't sell anything I cut so I'm not sure what I would do with a bunch of oak and hickory or whatever.
And I probably have another 10,000 or so of those logs on this place, bought 102 acres of almost all pines.

Still like the looks of a hardwood forest better though.