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The wood shop => Power Tools and techniques. => Topic started by: andybuildz on January 18, 2008, 08:39:29 PM

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Title: What tool you want?
Post by: andybuildz on January 18, 2008, 08:39:29 PM
What tool do you keep saying you're going to buy but still haven't after all these years...one you know you'd use alot?

I keep saying I'm gonna buy Fein's Multimaster.
And this isn't even the most current model (but if you wanna buy it for me...   ;D 
 ->http://www.amazon.com/Fein-MSXE-636-2VSXL-MultiMaster-Variable-Accessory/dp/B00063RSIS/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=hi&qid=1200710236&sr=8-1
Title: Re: What tool you want?
Post by: Kirk Allen on January 18, 2008, 10:24:10 PM
Andy, funny you should ask ;D  I went to Indianapolis today and picked up a few needed ..... wanted items at The Woodworking Show. ;D

We got the 500,000 rpm model.  Have seen this tool for years and wanted it and finally bought it for my wife today :) We got the 500,000 rpm model.  http://www.powerairtool.com/products.htm (http://www.powerairtool.com/products.htm)

Got this for her shop as well  http://www.woodstockint.com/Products/W1686/ (http://www.woodstockint.com/Products/W1686/)

Those two items and a new 12" Forester II blade for my chop saw. 

Title: Re: What tool you want?
Post by: joasis on January 19, 2008, 03:30:54 AM
One of these days, I want a dedicated mortising machine...but what would be better is the time to use it. I need more.
Title: Re: What tool you want?
Post by: Frank Pender - AKA "Tail Gunner" on January 19, 2008, 05:52:12 AM
I am with you , Jay.  Time is a tool, as well, but that spindle samder is nice.
Title: Re: What tool you want?
Post by: Kirk Allen on January 19, 2008, 08:30:48 AM
I was surprised how few big tool manufacturers were present.  Delta and General were it.  No Jet, Gizzly, or any of the lathe companies.  A wood hobby shop dealer had the shop fox at his booth otherwise I would have never seen it.   
Title: Re: What tool you want?
Post by: joasis on January 19, 2008, 08:45:47 AM
I think the internet is really changing the way things are done, at least at the general public level. When I was involved in machining, the SMT shows were big events...now I understand they have dinners with product presentations instead of the mega shows with machine tools set up and running, as in days of old.
Title: Re: What tool you want?
Post by: Kirk Allen on January 19, 2008, 08:50:28 AM
I agree.  We do 90% of our business from the Internet.  It has saved us thousands in show expense.  I go to one show a year now.  Fire Department Instructor Conference (FDIC) in Indy.  Its the largest fire expo in North America and it pays to go to that one but thats where it stops. Each state has a fire conference of some kind you could go to but anymore those have become nothing more than golf outings.
Title: Re: What tool you want?
Post by: Frank Pender - AKA "Tail Gunner" on January 19, 2008, 02:21:56 PM
Well, I can tell you the one we just had here in Oregon, was not a golf outing.   ;D  Because I do not play golf.  You are correct, that not many vendors showed, as expected.
Title: Re: What tool you want?
Post by: Kirk Allen on January 19, 2008, 06:04:49 PM
They have just made it to costly to attend.  The show in Indy wanted me to reserve my hotel through the show planners and they offered the "show" rate for Holiday Inn Express as $139.00.  I booked it myself and got a rack rate of $65.00.
Title: Re: What tool you want?
Post by: andybuildz on January 19, 2008, 07:12:10 PM
How bout' tools you wish you didn't buy?
Like as in when you cheap out and you're sorry later.
For me its my Crapsman shop vac. I'm so pizzed that I scored that instead of the Fein tool actuated vac.
http://www.amazon.com/Fein-9-55-13-Gallon-Horsepower-Auto-Start/dp/B0000223XD/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=hi&qid=1200791232&sr=1-1
I reasearched it to death too back then (when I had the money) and it was between the Fein and the Festool
http://www.taunton.com/finewoodworking/ToolGuide/ToolGuideProduct.aspx?id=5699
The Festool vac is real good ..maybe the best but a bit too pricey for me.
Title: Re: What tool you want?
Post by: andybuildz on January 25, 2008, 07:06:23 AM
This is from the UK but I'm guessing it should be here soon. I want one!!
http://www.dewalt.co.uk/ontrack/UK/index.html
Wonder how much $$$.
I'm afraid to find out.
Was just thinking...put a small blade in to make mortises? Hmmmm
Title: Re: What tool you want?
Post by: joasis on January 25, 2008, 07:38:22 AM
Thanks Andy....thanks alot! I really needed to see a new tool like that one, that I have to hunt for now and buy. Dewalt has a unique table saw available only in Europe, and I haven't even seen a picture of it lately.
Title: Re: What tool you want?
Post by: mike p on January 25, 2008, 07:15:16 PM
birkes solar kiln
http://www.timbergreenforestry.com/Solar%20Cycle%20Kilns.html
 & a fork lift to load it with
Title: Re: What tool you want?
Post by: andybuildz on January 25, 2008, 07:19:12 PM
birkes solar kiln
http://www.timbergreenforestry.com/Solar%20Cycle%20Kilns.html
 & a fork lift to load it with
Thats totally bizarre Mike...I was reading through that just last night. I think I saw it in the Woodweb Forum? Wonder how much different it is than the one below I'm posting with free plans.

I also checked this out...what does anyone think of this plan...built on a larger scale naturally?
http://www.ext.vt.edu/pubs/forestry/420-030/420-030.html
Title: Re: What tool you want?
Post by: mike p on January 25, 2008, 07:42:45 PM
WELL i have those plans & should have built one already . but been wanting the birky design  ;Dthat has multiple kiln rooms & you move the doors to the room that is to be in operation at the time. the other rooms allows for air drying till your ready to start the heating cycle with out haveing to move the lumber :P.
should of been in production but health problems has sapped my recources & energy :-[. but im on the go now :) ;D, just dont lose the dream & well make it one day
Title: Re: What tool you want?
Post by: andybuildz on January 25, 2008, 08:24:12 PM
Mike...The plans for those? They're the same one's where it says $30?
Title: Re: What tool you want?
Post by: mike p on January 25, 2008, 09:37:00 PM
Mike...The plans for those? They're the same one's where it says $30?
i think you are  refering to the birky plans i got a copy of them too
Title: Re: What tool you want?
Post by: joasis on January 26, 2008, 09:24:15 AM
This is from the UK but I'm guessing it should be here soon. I want one!!
http://www.dewalt.co.uk/ontrack/UK/index.html
Wonder how much $$$.
I'm afraid to find out.
Was just thinking...put a small blade in to make mortises? Hmmmm

BTW, I placed that link on contractortalk, and the guys pointed out that it is a Festool TS55 dressed up as a Dwalt....about $400 and up, depending on options.
Title: Re: What tool you want?
Post by: Frank Pender - AKA "Tail Gunner" on February 10, 2008, 07:29:09 PM
A want might be a nice spindle sander.
Title: Re: What tool you want?
Post by: andybuildz on February 10, 2008, 07:48:59 PM

Is this on your wish list...hee hee
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=230220307238&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=013
Title: Re: What tool you want?
Post by: Steve G. on February 12, 2008, 12:26:59 PM
I just a got a nice craftsman 10" radial arm saw form craigslist for $75 - what a steal!
Title: Re: What tool you want?
Post by: JP Sinclair on February 13, 2008, 09:34:20 AM
Got it.  70's vintage Powermatic planer.  1400lbs, built right!!!!!

Title: Re: What tool you want?
Post by: Kirk Allen on February 18, 2008, 10:07:19 PM
Got to love those old heavy machines.

Picked this one up a few years ago.  15" three phase.  It weighs over 2000lbs. 

(http://sawmillandtimberforum.com/gallery/0/2_17_02_08_7_09_11_1.jpg)
Title: Re: What tool you want?
Post by: POC on February 07, 2010, 01:36:52 AM
My neighbor, the one with the big ole' circle mill, has the planer that came out of the high school my dad went to.  It is at least a 24" cut, and I think it is 30".  I hope to aquire it when he is finished with it.  He's 85 y.o. but still going strong.
Title: Re: What tool you want?
Post by: Frank Pender - AKA "Tail Gunner" on March 12, 2010, 08:22:22 PM

The unit I bought and am sorry for spending the money on, has been my Logosol P260/
Title: Re: What tool you want?
Post by: Kirk Allen on March 13, 2010, 07:11:39 AM
Didnt it pay for itself with the flooring jobs?  Seemed like a pretty good machine from what I recall of the day we used it.
Title: Re: What tool you want?
Post by: mike p on March 13, 2010, 10:55:05 AM
The unit I bought and am sorry for spending the money on, has been my Logosol P260/
why is that frank i wood love to have one but still working on kiln & building to put it in
Title: Re: What tool you want?
Post by: Frank Pender - AKA "Tail Gunner" on March 13, 2010, 11:33:15 AM
Yes, it is a good machine and all.  I just decided I should only be cutting lumber and not doing so many things.  Yes, it has paid for itself and all.  I am willing to give a hefty discount to the right buyer, Kirk.
Title: Re: What tool you want?
Post by: Kirk Allen on March 13, 2010, 01:20:50 PM
I could want it all day long but getting it here is the problem.  ???
Title: Re: What tool you want?
Post by: Carl Middleton on March 13, 2010, 06:11:14 PM
About the only thing could really use would be a dedicated slaber. I get a call every couple months for live edge table top slabs or the ability to cut from their logs. + it would save my back cuttin these big logs in half ;D
Title: Re: What tool you want?
Post by: Frank Pender - AKA "Tail Gunner" on April 26, 2010, 09:35:58 AM
I will check on the shipping costs, Kirk and let you know. 
Title: Re: What tool you want?
Post by: RiverForest on January 30, 2018, 01:20:19 AM
 Thread wake up call. You know how these new posters are.

Would anyone have the knowledge to venture an opinion on a Powermatic 15 HH, 15 inch planer, a few years old, now selling new on Amazon for $3100 shipped?   The man designing our house for us wants to sell his and some other shop tools.  I think he said he paid $3600 for it, but memories vary, we know how that is.  Single phase 230.

I'd be using it to clean up bandsaw and swing blade milled oak, etc, from our land, probably mostly for flooring, as I hope we can keep the trim "rustic" and save the work!

The guy's pretty adventurous. His own house is a nice timber frame, and he put down some very wide flooring on the second floor, green. He secured it with fasteners using slots instead of round holes and adjusted things as the wood dried.

He & his wife also have a three-year-old crazy rambunctious border collie. How bad can a guy who has one of them really be?   I mean, we know he had at least sense enough to get a dog smarter than most people. 🐕
Title: Re: What tool you want?
Post by: Kirk Allen on May 16, 2018, 10:24:44 PM
Powermatic has made some great tools and their planer is no exception.  What kind of price is he asking for it?
Title: Re: What tool you want?
Post by: RiverForest on May 17, 2018, 12:47:36 AM
Waiting still for pricing, along with waiting for a full list of what he wants to sell--I think he is hedging until he gets his own house on the mkt..  I'll jump back on here with it when he tells me.

I'm off to the Richmond (VA) forestry show Friday & Saturday--anyone from this forum attending (Richard and Kasco of course!)?  Wood-Mizer is practically moving heaven and earth there from Indy according to Marty Parsons, something like 15 machines or more.  Including a zero turn mower...zzzzzzz.
Title: Re: What tool you want?
Post by: A.O. on March 07, 2019, 08:45:19 AM
And another wake up post..

Don't know if this counts but I'd love to have a 3 point backhoe to go on my Kubota.

Lost of other tools I'd like to get also.. not room here to list them I don't think.

Two I've recently acquired is a 16" planer a couple months ago, and a little shaper I got yesterday. YAY
Title: Re: What tool you want?
Post by: furu on March 07, 2019, 10:32:27 AM
I would look for a frame mounted backhoe for your Kubota.  I have heard that the three point ones have structural and strength issues.  I know my dealer was adamant that it was not a good idea when I got mine JD 13 years ago.
Title: Re: What tool you want?
Post by: A.O. on March 07, 2019, 10:36:15 AM
I would look for a frame mounted backhoe for your Kubota.  I have heard that the three point ones have structural and strength issues.  I know my dealer was adamant that it was not a good idea when I got mine JD 13 years ago.

Yeah, but yours is a JD! HAHA! sorry, couldn't resist.


I only say the 3 point cause it would be a very seldomly used piece of equipment.
Title: Re: What tool you want?
Post by: Crusarius on March 07, 2019, 10:54:06 AM
you know how funny it is everyone says the 3 point hitch ones are bad. My dad has had one that went on his Minneapolis Moline for 20+ years. He has used it a ton. It has never caused any issues with the tractor or the 3 pt.

Biggest problem is the major need for ballast on the front with it on the back.
Title: Re: What tool you want?
Post by: A.O. on March 07, 2019, 01:12:45 PM
you know how funny it is everyone says the 3 point hitch ones are bad. My dad has had one that went on his Minneapolis Moline for 20+ years. He has used it a ton. It has never caused any issues with the tractor or the 3 pt.

Biggest problem is the major need for ballast on the front with it on the back.

Yeah, I could just pick up a load of sand with the loader for that.
Title: Re: What tool you want?
Post by: Crusarius on March 07, 2019, 01:29:59 PM
that would work. his does not have the loader.
Title: Re: What tool you want?
Post by: furu on March 07, 2019, 02:39:50 PM
It might not be that easy to find a frame mount for an older tractor but I know of guys that have fab'ed up their own. 
It locks in so much better and has no play on the lift arm links. 
As to your Deere comment:  Trust me there is a very good  reason I went with the JD instead of the Kubota.
It is not a Chevy Ford Dodge thing either.
Title: Re: What tool you want?
Post by: A.O. on March 07, 2019, 03:08:55 PM
It might not be that easy to find a frame mount for an older tractor but I know of guys that have fab'ed up their own. 
It locks in so much better and has no play on the lift arm links. 
As to your Deere comment:  Trust me there is a very good  reason I went with the JD instead of the Kubota.
It is not a Chevy Ford Dodge thing either.

So enlighten me... Nothing really wrong with a deere, but this is my 3rd Kubota.. trouble free machinery
Title: Re: What tool you want?
Post by: furu on March 07, 2019, 09:11:33 PM
A lot of folks around here have had issues with the mid range (50-70 HP) Kubotas tractors and the dealer just plain sucks at service issue and support.

A different piece of equipment but................... 
When I was looking at the SVL90-2 five years ago I had to go 150 miles away to find a dealer that was even knowledgeable enough to have an intelligent conversation about the unit and its mulching capability.
Title: Re: What tool you want?
Post by: A.O. on March 07, 2019, 09:30:11 PM
A lot of folks around here have had issues with the mid range (50-70 HP) Kubotas tractors and the dealer just plain sucks at service issue and support.

A different piece of equipment but................... 
When I was looking at the SVL90-2 five years ago I had to go 150 miles away to find a dealer that was even knowledgeable enough to have an intelligent conversation about the unit and its mulching capability.

I've had a 55 hp gear drive, then a 30 hp Glideshift, and now a 37hp hydrostatic. The only one that's ever been in the shop is this last one, had a seal go out in the front end and being 4wd I didn't want to mess with it so I let them do it. But always had good luck with my Kubota dealers (three different states). Need to go to one soon and pick up 12 gallons of hydro oil and a couple filters... Time for my 800 hr service.
Title: Re: What tool you want?
Post by: furu on March 07, 2019, 10:40:10 PM
I guess I would play devils advocate and if they were so problem free why don't you still have them? 
Or are you the trade in for the new one at some point rather than the one that keeps it until it dies.
I am the later type. 
I have a 1981 CJ5 jeep that when I got it in Sept 1980 I made a commitment to keep it until it died or I died which ever came first.  I have several folks on my wife's side of the family that are laying claim to it.  But I am not giving it up and I don't plan on croaking anytime soon.
Title: Re: What tool you want?
Post by: A.O. on March 08, 2019, 07:02:28 AM
I guess I would play devils advocate and if they were so problem free why don't you still have them? 
Or are you the trade in for the new one at some point rather than the one that keeps it until it dies.
I am the later type. 
I have a 1981 CJ5 jeep that when I got it in Sept 1980 I made a commitment to keep it until it died or I died which ever came first.  I have several folks on my wife's side of the family that are laying claim to it.  But I am not giving it up and I don't plan on croaking anytime soon.


I had the 55 hp one in Oklahoma where I had 160 acres, sold it when we moved to colorado to reside on 10 acres on the side of a mountain (TALK ABOUT A MISTAKE!!) needed to downsize it. Sold that one when we moved back to the world here in South Carolina and got 100 acres and wanted a bigger tractor.

I should have kept that first one all along.. oh well hindsight I guess. And all of them were used, I wish I could afford a shiny new one! Although this one only had 320 hrs on it when I bought it.
Title: Re: What tool you want?
Post by: bandmiller2 on March 08, 2019, 07:36:25 PM
I'll be happy for the time to wear out the tools I have. Frank C.
Title: Re: What tool you want?
Post by: A.O. on March 08, 2019, 07:45:50 PM
I'll be happy for the time to wear out the tools I have. Frank C.

Great answer