Sawmill and Timber
Forestry, Logging and Building => Plant Physiology-Pathology => Topic started by: Stevem on January 23, 2009, 06:29:01 PM
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Does anybody know if wood peckers (flickers) digging around the base of a douglas fir is an indication of problems? I keep seeing (in season) a flicker digging at the base of my fir tree and was wondering.
Last time I had this happen it was an aspen and it fell on the neighbors car in a light wind storm.
The fir would hit my house, don't want that.
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Steve,
Flickers, are the only species of woodpeckers that feed on the ground near tree trunks. They tend to catch and eat any ground bugs or insects that take flight in front of their food search.
Trees / Shrubs attract a lot of bugs which are either using the tree for shelter or feeding upon it. The birds will go after grubs within the lower trunk or roots.
Observe how much attention they are paying to the lower bole (trunk) if they are attacking the bark. This would be cause for concern of bark / boring beetles.
Now for the obvious question? Are you sure they are 'flickers' and not sap suckers?
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Not sap sucker. Got one of those too but he/she is sucking a laural tree. Don't really like the tree so don't care too much
Flicker for sure and maybe a pilated wood pecker too, bigger than the flicker.
I'll check and see how much pecking in the bark and bole there is.
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A bird haven ;D
Of course your living in an area that is known to be inundated with disease and pests. It ought to keep them winged critters around for years. :laugh: :laugh:
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The pecker holes are about 3 feet up from the ground. No sap running just into the bark which is about 2" at that point. Tree is 24"-30" on the stump. Probably 20 holes in the bark and those are mostly on the south side. Trees are on a fence line with a road 8 feet away but the shoulder next to the trees acts as a parking place. Didn't see any evidence that the birds found anything such as a grub hole beyond the pecking.
I like having the birds (well maybe not the sap sucker). I just don't want to have a bait station with those trees close enough to land on the shop or house
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Those holes are because there are critters inside the bark and your feathered friends know it well.
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We have been having problems with woodpeckers on our WRC power poles. They have hammered in some pretty big holes and the power company has been replacing them regulary. Good for me ;D, bad for the power company :(.
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Yes, Steve those are just as Frank said:
caused by your neighborhood association of the FFF (feathered flicker friends) ;D
The birds know it, now you know it.............the $64 question is why are the insects there. Now if you are concerned about tree failure, it is time to do a root /tree exam to discover the actual problem to make an informed decision. I just happen to know someone (who trys to put food on the table) that can help for a small fee :D
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How small? Free lunch and a Coe's monkey wrench?
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I will do it for as free lunch and a wrench. I have always heard of a free lunch, but never had the oppotrunity. Now, I will also bring my F450 for hauling things back, if need be. :angel: :angel: :angel:
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Hey Steve......
Free lunch and a Coe sounds good. Let me know two hours before you have Frank come over.
I'll trade Frank the lunch/coe for a full loaded F-450 ;D :laugh:
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I was waiting for some left-coaster to volunteer to open the tree up and see why the woodpeckers wanted in so badly.
:laugh:
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:laugh: :D :laugh: :laugh:
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Got to find the wrench, going to have a crowd!!
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What's for Lunch Steve
Elk backstrap.....baked potato......Huckleberry Pie ;D
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Ain't got huckleberries, got blue berries! that work?
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When is the bash? I "Need" to taste some Elk Backstrap! ;D
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After the wood peckers come back.
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Bluberries, just as good!
I'll be calling soon............
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Beautiful day here in the NW; decided to do a window survey for potential clients..
Ended up at Steve M to check out the woodpecker activity.. Seems they had created nesting holes for..........drum roll..... Box Elder bugs which they are most likely eating. Damage encompassed outer bark only. Bark Beetle activity was notable but not extensive damage.
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With the exception of a couple of trees having multiple tops due to '62' storm and topping. Overall health is amazingly good.....as trees in the local vicinity are not doing as well. Also considerable amount of compaction and disturbance is occuring by Steve's neighbor to the SW, his neighbor............................Oregon State Forestry Santiam District Office :)
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Steve's place has various and assorted interesting plants which his wife loves. So Steve has added to the landscape. Here he is with a new lawn ornament ;D
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Lucas Mill is in the pickup ready to go. Notice Steve is literally 'hooked' on milling :laugh: ;D
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now that the kind of yard ornament i like :laugh: :laugh:
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Thanks for all the pictures Mr. Wiley it was good having you here.
Just for the record the lawn ornament is the small end from a 16' foot D.Fir which was 74" on the big end. Ring count is about 5 or 6 rings per inch. Not great but I got the log just to see if I could saw it with my Lucas. Can do but it's some what of a hassle. 40 to 50 inches is a lot easier.