I've sawn some very nasty pine,, but the fat lighter mentioned earlier, we as kids would head out to the low ground around the river, and work up stumps of them, bring them home and bust into kindling, then bring it up to the, at that time the (getting place?) it was the only quick thrift around, Roaches was the name, they sold bout everything, even fat lighter, they would buy it from us, in bundles we bring. Along with the at that time bottles for deposit. You guys remember that? nickle a bottle, the construction guys would pay us to sweep out the mess at the end of the day, and the bottles were a by product. Cash in hand, moved by wagons,, to the local Roaches, and Winn Dixie, I'm getting off topic for sure,, but thought of these pine roots ever since having my mill, I've seen some real messy stuff, but cant ever remember sawing anything like we dug from the ground, known as fat lighter,,