Creeker, I've never been able to figure out how to post pictures. Ox. the beauty of those slugs is you just use regular wads, drop the slug in and star crimp as usual. When I hunt in rifle zones I use my old winny 94 32 special, more than enough for Bambi. I hunted ducks for years with 3 1/2" 10ga. using reloads. I did much experimenting trying to get good 100 yd. patterns alas even large lead pellets pooped out at 80 yds. In my youth I used to shoot suckers in a shallow brook, you didn't even have to hit them the concussion of a near hit would send them belly up. Frank C.