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Offline Stephen Wiley

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« on: January 21, 2009, 08:46:15 PM »
Noticed this forum above and visited........noticed participants had an ID problem on disease. This being my area of practice and study was going to join and post an answer.  Their registration mandates BD's  (whereas this site does not) so I decided not to register.

Anyone participating on both sites; I will be glad to respond to them on this site. The fella needing a response goes by ' Treebucker'.

Since their is not a category for Plant Physiology............best to respond here.

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Re: Lumber Works Forums
« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2009, 10:29:00 PM »
Maybe this forum could add such a section here?  Sick trees? 
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Re: Lumber Works Forums
« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2009, 11:17:46 PM »
Request Accomplished. Now who wants to moderate the topic?  Right now I listed Frank but since this is definatly a specialty we would welcome a specialist in this area. 

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« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2009, 11:57:52 PM »
That was quick!
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« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2009, 02:30:09 PM »
We aim to please!  ;)
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« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2009, 07:54:31 AM »
I go to site and have been very happy with it.
I am a moedrator over there and you should get hold of woodbutcher he runs the place talk to him about anything you want.

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Re: Lumber Works Forums
« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2009, 08:22:43 PM »
Thank You, 

Already looked at site.....required revealing your birthday as a mandatory registering item, where this site does NOT.

I only wanted to offer my expertise in plant pathology to a fella named 'treebucker'.  I have done so on this site under Physiology-Pathology.  If you would like to let him know.

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« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2009, 05:37:51 PM »
will do
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« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2018, 12:15:01 AM »
Old thread disruption, and the owner might not think my idea is a good one, but...

People lie about their age (and therefore, their DOB) all the time.  There is no law against nor any real reason not to, make up some stuff like that.  So shoot me.

I usually list my BD or year of birth as the earliest (or for more fun, the latest) year a given system will accept.  Month and/or day?  ha Ha HA.

I can assure you the purpose is deriving demographics for whomever puts up advertising on that site.

After all, google scans gmail accounts for advertising pointers.

Adobe did reject 1900 for me a few years ago, but I think I bumped it to 1910 and all was well.

Side note: We're working on ideas for some privacy offerings using our site, Ordinary.com.  How many of you would go back to paying an annual fee for a secure and private email account?

Free? No. Free from snooping?  Yes.  More later.

Now excuses me whiles I takes my Geritol, Sonny.
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« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2018, 09:35:35 AM »
About how much are you thinking of charging?
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« Reply #10 on: January 31, 2018, 02:08:05 PM »
We are not that far along but my guess is something like $25.

Lots more to tell on that if you are interested in hearing.   I will now hear over to the general discussions area, to respect the owner's divisions of threads. PM me if you have trouble finding it and thanks for asking :) --it's helpful to get questions since it makes me focus and think about it.

I want to see this forum grow.  It's run by a guy who still cuts wood and posts interesting things about it.  And I have not seen him bully anyone yet.  We should encourage "migration" from FF.  Average age there based on members who choose to disclose it is really high, so I am wondering if that forum will decline anyway as those guys "leave" the old fashioned way.

Come over here before that.  Your mental health will be better in the long run, no matter how "long" that run is.  From what I have seen so far, this group is just as helpful, and less condescending.

Remember those nutty beer commercials?  "Good taste, less filling".  Do your own metaphor from it.

I'm 66 so age is a factor :-[.  Working with wood (and its attendant "toys", expensive ones at that) and being outdoors makes me feel younger!  Poorer financially when measured in some ways, but younger...feeling :laugh:  :)!
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« Reply #11 on: January 31, 2018, 05:44:17 PM »
I think most members over there don't know this site exists. I am not very computer savvy, but there has to be a way to get more exposure for the site, I do not even remember what  was searching for when I ran across it myself. I have seen a couple of members mention the other site on ff, and presume this is THE other forum. lol

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« Reply #12 on: January 31, 2018, 09:26:29 PM »
I bet you Hilary would pay for an email account free from snoopers lol
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« Reply #13 on: May 19, 2018, 06:46:52 PM »
I know the former owner of the Lumber Works Forum.   He really dislikes your old buddy Jeff.  I enjoy all the forums, but definitely find the ass kissing on the Forestry Forum a little tough to stomach sometimes.  Most of the people there are good to communicate with, but some just kind of suck up to get brownie points or something.  Never really figured it out.  I used to own a Timberking 1600, and disliked all the problems that were inherent with the design.  Whenever someone would complain about TK, the Admin would shut down the thread, and leave the newbie hanging.  Damn shame there is no honesty there, or none allowed.  Will try this forum as well, seems to be a little more honest about problems, solutions, and issues.  Thanks for the invite.
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« Reply #14 on: May 19, 2018, 09:51:38 PM »
Welcome aboard and enjoy...............we charge for NOTHING!
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« Reply #15 on: May 20, 2018, 09:47:46 AM »
You might find this forum painfully honest at times but that's the beauty of it, at least for me.  Welcome!  You are free to say anything you want, how you want, when you want.  No censorship here and no lies here.  No fund drives to line somebody's greedy pockets either.
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« Reply #16 on: May 20, 2018, 02:08:09 PM »
As has been said, welcome to the forum. Pretty open place to ask and voice information without all the drama
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« Reply #17 on: May 23, 2018, 08:11:07 PM »
I may have missed it somewhere else here, but I have to as Kojba, what kinda problems did  you have or are having?  my neighbor is looking to buy a used 1600, I'm curious as to what kind of problems stands out?  he asked me if I would help him with some sawing,, a heads up would be nice if some issues came up..

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« Reply #18 on: May 23, 2018, 09:52:14 PM »
The 1600 can be a nice mill with some modifications applied.  My biggest issues were the flimsy log stops, weak plastic energy chain, and the difficulty maintaining a nice accurate cut.  I don't mean to be talking "Ford/Chevy" but the engineering quality of the TK compared to the Woodmizer was obvious to me.  The Woodmizer allowed me to remove and change belts on the band mill with ease, while working with the TK belts meant sending the wheel back to TK for changing, or a shop capable of removing and reinstalling when necessary.  The greasable guide rollers that came with it went bad every 6 hours of milling, or so.  They were easy to change, but got expensive after awhile.  The folks at TK were very kind and sent new energy chain when I needed it at no charge, they also sent me upgraded guide rollers that were sealed and lasted a very long time.  They also told me that they had hired a new engineer to redesign their 1600 log stops, and I have to say, were bending over backwards to make me happy.  All in all, the TK is a good company, but I would look for a used B-20 before buying a 1600.  The log stops are superior, the bi-plane clamp can't be had on the 1600, and the satisfaction of the b-20 owners seems to be very high.  I checked out the 1220 while I was in Missouri, and was impressed with the rugged simplicity of that mill, and if I had to do over again,, would have bought the 1220 before the 1600.  Every 1600 owner I have talked to hates the backstops, and they weld manual log stops on the mill for accurate milling.  Some models of all manufactures turn out to less than perfect, and the 1600 falls into that category with me.  I hope this doesn't make any TK owners mad, I believe the TK is a fine mill.  My experience with the 1600, just kept me frustrated too often.... :-\
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« Reply #19 on: May 24, 2018, 01:02:22 AM »
I am pretty certain that Stevenm has a 1600 and I think he has been pretty happy , but I will let him talk for himself. 
I have a TK and think the design is very good.  I do have a problem with TK but it is not the design of the mill. It is a lot of other things not the design.
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« Reply #20 on: May 24, 2018, 03:23:16 PM »
thanks Kojba, and before I say anything else, your handle name reminds me of some sort of smoked polish sausage! :laugh: :laugh: now that  that is said, thanks again for the input, the fellow I sold my lift to had recently bought a 1400? Yea pretty sure that is the model, its a manual everything I believe,  I know another fellow that owned one of the timber kings years ago, and runs a circle now, as well as running practically every mill make under the sun, band or otherwise, he did say had he to do it all over again, (like the last 25 years or so) he would've kept the timberking,  that carries a lot weight coming from him, and I'm not sure what model he had back then, I just remember him saying it, and he liked the way it sawed and how it fit his layout.  thanks again, I'll be sure to pass the word on to joe,

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« Reply #21 on: June 08, 2018, 12:15:51 AM »
Just got back from cross countrying The USA.  Western Oregon to Atlanta. GA and back.  Logged about 6,000 miles on the car.
Welcome aboard Kojba.
Yes I have a 1600 TK and after a few modes it is a pretty good mill.  Steep learning coming from a Lucas.  Lucas is much simpler.  I think I've stretch every limit of the mill and it does keep running. Length, height, and weight.
The log stops  (squaring arms) have given me fits also but in defense of TK they probably work for most of the users.  According to TK i saw larger than average size logs.  Larger logs un-round and un-straight tend to climb the uprights and either bend the bracket on the the frame or bend the control arm that runs back to the control station.  On my third set of brackets because they were too bent and wouldn't adjust further, but the two closest to the control station now have additional bracing and seem to be holding up. The style they use is unique to the 1600.  So I guess "development" is a low priority.   
I bought the add on toe board and that was a waste of money and a real bad joke.  Looks like a Honda car jack!!! Not worth having for a number of reasons.  Too slow and too under rated.  I just put the small end toward the operator end and use the log turner to lift the log and shim it.
Don't like the mud saw either.  Once you start into a log you can't backup without three hands.
And I agree with the drive belt adjusting problem.  And you have to adjust them just right or they twist in the pulleys witch is fatal.
Support from TK has been absolutely great.
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« Reply #22 on: June 08, 2018, 09:19:11 PM »
Thanks for the "Welcome" SteveM.  I pretty much agree with everything you said about your 1600.  A good mill, that with a few adjustments, could be a great mill!  Loved the log turner, cussed the log stops.  I found that knots in the log were the real log stop killer.  If you are careful when loading the log (so the knots won't make contacts with the stops), you are okay.  If not, they will bend out of alignment quickly.  That's why I welded stops to the deck.  I believe someone could put hydraulic log stops on the mill without a lot of trouble. 
I'm not sure if TK has a blade tension blade now, but I can't fathom milling without one now.  The blade tension changes constantly when milling lumber.  Pitch buildup causes the blade to tighten, heat when milling causes the blade to loosen, and the type of log you are milling can cause one or both to change constantly.  Poor blade tension is the number one cause of inaccurate lumber production.  I would also be curious if you could put a slightly larger belt on a TK band wheel?  Woodmizer mills run a slightly oversized belt; which allows the belt to be changed easily, usually cleaned with each blade change.  Next time you are replacing your belts, try putting on a slightly larger belt (loose on the wheel) and see how it goes.  I don't think your would notice any difference, and the chance to clean/change belts when changing blades is priceless. 
Thanks again for the "Welcome".  So far I really like this site. ;D
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