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Offline joasis

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GUESS WHO NOW IS A REAL SAWYER!
« on: February 21, 2009, 04:21:13 PM »
Kirk bought a circle mill! ;D Now that he owns a real mill with a big blade, he can claim to be a real sawyer.....next stop....a billion board feet of experience! >:D
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« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2009, 04:48:10 PM »
Well I finally bit the bullet and got a circle mill.  It was a deal I just could not pass up.  EVERYTHING still works and they cut a board on it this morning at the auction.  C35 Corley with a 56" blade and a spare 60" blade :o



42 feet of track here and another 20 feet outside in the old saw shed. 
 

The power unit is a IH Gas/Deisel.  Starts on gas and then flip the lever to run on deisel. Not sure how many HP it has but the old timer there said it was 60HP but that sounds high.  Time for some research.  :)


The Red pump in the picture is an old hydraulic pump commonly found on 3-point hitches. He has it hooked up to run the log lift mechanism.


There is a sawdust blower hooked to the belts system in the lower left hand corner of this pic.  He had it set up to blow all the chips outside the shed.


You can see how the duct work goes across the bottom of the ceiling.



This is the gas powered winch he used to bring the logs into the building. Even got a new 12 volt battery with it.  They had to buy the battery to show everyone the engine still ran ;D


Spare 60" blade


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« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2009, 04:59:42 PM »
The Best part was the price.  I got everything you see for $??? :o 

One of the locals wanted to buy the power unit from me for $500 but I figured I might need it since I'm venturing into the circle mill busines ;)

The only other thing I bid on was a stack of lumber.  150 bf of white oak and a few cherry boards.  $5 was my winning bid!  :o
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« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2009, 09:35:21 PM »
Considering you spent $??? for a sawmill and some lumber at the auction, I'd say you had a pretty good day :)
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« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2009, 10:49:33 PM »
Good Deal........congratulations :o

Now your gonna need some help 'moving' all those materials and saw.....

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« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2009, 05:41:41 AM »
 you got a great deal.
 there is a mill on e-bay right now that is 20 miles from were i live and has a set up like yours for $2000. without power plant.
 
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« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2009, 07:54:22 AM »
I have the 30' flat bed to move it on but getting it all broke down is going to be the time consumer. 

The other challenge is going to be getting the power unit up on the trailer.  Good old Farm Inginuity will surly come into play. 
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« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2009, 08:17:34 AM »
I saw a Belsaw on Ebay and the guy is asking $6000 for it.  I hope he gets it but I think we all know it probably wont happen. 

I am looking forward to yet another project ::) ;D

One of the values in going to auctions are the people you meet.  I was hoping to buy the South Bend lathe they had because I have one and need some parts so I figured it would be worth a couple hundred for the parts I need. 

Turns out the guy who was bidding against me on the mill knows the largest supplier of parts for the South Bend and said he could get me any parts I need for a whole lot less than what I was willing to spend.  Turns out the lathe sold for $950 :o   I was shocked because all the other wood working equipment sold for less than $75. 

After I managed to win the mill bid I had two guys talk to me about getting wood cut.  Turns out they are just north of me about 30 miles and have 20-30 logs they need cut.  Told them about the band mill operation I already have and presto,2 new customers!

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« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2009, 02:34:41 PM »
Horse shoes!!@! Damn horse shoes.  gotta get me a horse shoe!
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« Reply #9 on: February 22, 2009, 03:11:34 PM »
Kool deal Kirk Now you have to build another building for the circle mill ;D

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« Reply #10 on: February 22, 2009, 03:21:01 PM »
Actually I have been scattering my brain on how to set it up under the current saw shed and creat an assembly line type operation. 

Use the circle saw to break down three sided cants then shuffle them over to the band mill for grade sawing. 
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« Reply #11 on: February 22, 2009, 03:25:12 PM »
Horse shoes!!@! Damn horse shoes.  gotta get me a horse shoe!

Steve, that would be "Golden" horse shoe.  You have to make sure if you going to have one its got to be a Golden one ;D :D 

I am beginning to think mine has been stuck in place for a while  :D
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« Reply #12 on: February 22, 2009, 03:36:52 PM »
Goes to show you can never build em to big ;) With all the sawing I have lined up right now looks like I'm going to move the back out side and use the building for lumber storage.

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« Reply #13 on: February 23, 2009, 03:18:42 PM »
I would build storage for the lumber before I would go back out in the weather.  I cant wait for this summer. To be able to cut on hot sunny days with a roof over my head is going to be a dream come true!  I might actually get something done ;D
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« Reply #14 on: February 23, 2009, 03:27:16 PM »
Tomarrow morning I am heading over to start taking the mill apart and prep it for its new home ;D  Any suggestions.............other than take LOTS of pictures ;)
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« Reply #15 on: February 23, 2009, 04:09:07 PM »
Yes, measurements are very important.  I learned that early on with my big head rig.

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« Reply #16 on: February 23, 2009, 04:28:06 PM »
Got a lead on some locust logs I can use for post. :D Looks like Im building a storage building ;D Also cut about 1500 bf of gum today in Alex, Va Tomorrow got a oak 52" dia three sec 8' long  :o better bring the chain saw ;)

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« Reply #17 on: February 23, 2009, 08:44:21 PM »
Carl;
What species of Oak u cutting in VA  ???
Was that sour/black or sweet gum  ???

Kirk;
Ditto on what Frank says, plus the pics........you will be surprised at the smallest of bracket, etc. for placement. (than maybe you won't) :laugh:

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« Reply #18 on: February 23, 2009, 09:05:28 PM »
I wish I could just take it apart and come straight home and put it together but unfortunatly its going to sit for a few months and thats where all the detail I can get is going to help.
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« Reply #19 on: February 23, 2009, 09:30:24 PM »
WOW what a luckey guy

im glad you got it
wish i had the time & was closer wood love to help you tear down & set up
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« Reply #20 on: February 24, 2009, 01:04:48 PM »
Take some kind of impact wrench, penetrating oil and heat, propane or hotter.

Might even take a highspeed grinder and a sawsall.
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« Reply #21 on: February 24, 2009, 04:37:20 PM »
It took myself and one helper to break everything down and get it lined up at the big door a total of 5 1/2 hours. 

Steve, I had everything you mention except for an impact wrench.  We spent almost a whole hour getting the nut off that holds the blade on.  Pics to follow!
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« Reply #22 on: February 24, 2009, 06:04:40 PM »
For starters, we have some corrections to make.  The track is 52 feet long, not 42  :o

The blade that is on it is 52" and the spare is 58".  I managed to get the blade off and we put both of them in the truck for the trip home as I didnt think it would be wise to leave those laying around for the vulchers.  8)

Serial number relfects CH0009.  Going to have to do some research on it and find out when it was built.  Any ideas on where to start looking for that kind of info?


We got the motor up on a 2x8 of white oak and used the truck winch to pull it across the floor towards the door.  Not sure what I am going to use to lift it onto the trailer right now as this thing is a beast, but it runs quite well ;D


You can see the small pony winch & motor in this pic.  That thing must have weighed 400lbs as it was all the two of us could do just to slide it across the floor.  Lifting it was impossible :o


We lined everything up so that when I come back with the trialer and a lift all we have to do is push or pull it to the door and lift it up.


We took the saw guide off the husk and brought it home with us as its one of those items that could very well grow legs.


This is the home-made log lift.  Not the best picture but you can get the idea of how it works.  Going to have modify it when I get all this back up and running as I think the entire mill needs to be up about another 12" so I know that will change the lift mechanism some. 


We spent a good 30 minutes jacking up the husk assembly just to get the sawdust blower out from under it.  I have no clue how the guy got it installed unless he put it in first then built the husk around it as it was not coming out without lifting everything up about 2 feet.


Another shot of everything lined up for pickup ;D
 

Misc. Shots of different componants.
         

This puppy with the main pully must have weighed 1000lbs.  It was probably the most labor intensive portion of todays task.


The track was relativly easy to break loose.  We cut it dead center where it had been welded back together and its now loose and ready to be loaded.
 

Getting the main pully assembly apart so we could remove the belts was fairly easy, other than we should have brought a handy man jack with us instead of using leverage ::)
 

Just about everything was anchored down with "L" brackets so once we got all of them uncovered from sawdust we took them off and could pretty much slide stuff where we wanted it.
 
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« Reply #23 on: February 24, 2009, 06:47:28 PM »
It looks like you had a good productive day getting everything apart and ready to move.  Hopefully you have plenty of help to load the heavy stuff or some kind of lift to get everything on your trailer.  Now all you need to do is set up a webcam so we can watch you put it back together in real time :laugh:

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« Reply #24 on: February 24, 2009, 09:17:10 PM »
Its definatly going to be a summer project.  I know all the timbers the rails are attached to have to be replaced.

The husk probably needs to be rebuilt and I think I will do that with Osage Orange so that it "NEVER" has to be rebuilt again!
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« Reply #25 on: February 25, 2009, 10:11:13 AM »
Boy, does that all bring back memories.   ;D

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« Reply #26 on: February 25, 2009, 11:38:09 AM »
I just hope my memory works well enough to get it all back together :-\
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« Reply #27 on: February 25, 2009, 11:54:33 AM »
Take lots of pictures.  Memory can get real iffy on the fine points.
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« Reply #28 on: February 25, 2009, 08:28:24 PM »
Stephen it was sweet gum. Man is that some nice looking lumber. The white oak logs I cut in 3rds with the chain saw and milled 4/4 for flooring. Now I got to dry it all for him and then bring it all back.

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« Reply #29 on: February 25, 2009, 10:47:22 PM »
Got an email back from Corley MFG and they said the mill was made well prior to 1946  :o

They are sending me copies of all the literature they have on it including set instructions and parts lists.  
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« Reply #30 on: February 27, 2009, 03:36:44 PM »
Looks like I now have a lot of local interest with people wanting to see the mill in operation.  So much so that several have offered to help get it set back up :) 

I wonder what city slickers would pay to come watch an old fashion sawmill operation, hand feed chickens & Geese, and maybe even milk a cow! 

Allen's Agritourism!  ;D
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« Reply #31 on: February 27, 2009, 10:01:23 PM »
YOu have a new side line, business.  You will have to hire some rubberneck control folks and guides. ::)

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« Reply #32 on: March 02, 2009, 09:17:06 PM »
I go back to pick up the first load Wed. of this week. Once I get it unloaded the only thing left to go get is going to be the track and all the blocks they sit on! 

Still conteplating where to set this puppy at here ;D
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« Reply #33 on: March 02, 2009, 11:44:57 PM »
Now you just have to find a steam engine to run the mill.  Wood burner for sure.  Price of admission just went up.
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« Reply #34 on: March 03, 2009, 01:41:06 AM »
Now that would be too cool!  8)
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« Reply #35 on: March 03, 2009, 08:54:34 AM »
I just got an email from Corley Service Department and they let me know they sent a packet of information on my mill and said it should help in the set up. 

I am hoping its copies of the origninal literature because the last time I spoke with them they said those were all still available. 

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« Reply #36 on: March 04, 2009, 06:25:22 PM »
I am hoping its copies of the origninal literature because the last time I spoke with them they said those were all still available

wow that wood be cool
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« Reply #37 on: March 04, 2009, 09:43:42 PM »
We got it all loaded on the trailer in 1 hour except for the track.  Not bad all things considered. I got it all unloaded at my place and I will go back in the morning to pick up the track and the stack of lumber!

 

 

 

 

And for those who might recognize the trailer, YES, its the trailer that "COULD" despite all the naysayers who said it would never work.   :o 8) ;D :D

Next to my mill I think this trailer is the second best investment.  Home built for just my purpose!   ;D
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« Reply #38 on: March 05, 2009, 04:58:07 AM »
Kirk that trailer's perfect for what you use it for. How long it?

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« Reply #39 on: March 05, 2009, 12:25:41 PM »
The deck is 30' long.  The heaviest load I have had is 28K lbs. 

Legal limit is 15K :police: :D
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« Reply #40 on: March 05, 2009, 05:28:15 PM »
We went back today and got the track and lumber loaded.  Now I just have to figure out where on earth to put the track at my place.  ::)
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« Reply #41 on: March 05, 2009, 10:05:32 PM »
You might want to keep it on the trailer until you decide its location. ;D

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« Reply #42 on: March 05, 2009, 10:38:10 PM »
That will last all of 4 days.  I have 60 logs to haul south of me next week :( :) ;)
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« Reply #43 on: March 07, 2009, 03:06:46 PM »
You might have to purchase a selfloader, one of these days.

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« Reply #44 on: March 23, 2009, 04:36:23 PM »
I wonder if the collar nut was too tight? The collar is an integral part of the blades performance and about 75% of a guys problems with what seems to be tension have to do with the collar being  not set up right(machined).
Looks like a fine set up I am really happy for ya, and you will enjoy running it too!!

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« Reply #45 on: March 23, 2009, 04:37:32 PM »
You might have to purchase a selfloader, one of these days.
I think we ought to build one one weeked like we did the trailer ;)