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Offline HaroldCR - AKA Fla.-Deadheader

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Oversized Wood Mizer type band Mill.
« on: February 05, 2010, 03:54:03 PM »
 We built this mill, and it performs as well as a WoodMizer.
  It can produce 36" wide Table Slabs.
  It will cut 16' + logs. Fully Electric and Hydraulic controlled.
  24 HP Honda Engine
  100 ? Amp External Alternator.
  Hydraulic Log Loader.
  Hydraulic Log Stops.
  Hydraulic Toe Rollers-levelers.
  Electric Forward-reverse.
  Electric up-down.
  Electric movable blade guide.
  Electric-Hydraulic Log clamp. Can also be used to position logs and help turn them. 
  Highway towable.
  Can Demo but, buyer will need to buy 2 batteries, maybe ??  How serious are you ??  ::) ::) ::)
  Recently gone over and new parts and electric motors where needed.
  Approx 40+ Blades. Some well used, others plenty of sharpens left.
  No Sharpener or Setter
  Exclusively use Munksforsager 1¼"-1½" Blades, bought in North Ga. from Kennesaw.  Price is right, too.
  Photos on other Bandsaw mills board in the beginning of this forum.

  Price $10,000.00 or partial trade for GOOD late model pickup, + some moolah.  ::) ;D

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Re: Oversized Wood Mizer type band Mill.
« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2010, 07:14:40 PM »
where is this mill located?

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Re: Oversized Wood Mizer type band Mill.
« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2010, 10:48:53 PM »
Its in Florida but not sure what part.
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Re: Oversized Wood Mizer type band Mill.
« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2010, 10:51:25 PM »
Dry part.  ;)

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Re: Oversized Wood Mizer type band Mill.
« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2010, 09:06:19 AM »

 East of Orlando, on the coast. Vero Beach-Sebastian.

  Will help deliver up to 100 miles, if needed.  :)

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Re: Oversized Wood Mizer type band Mill.
« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2011, 05:10:58 PM »
Do you still have the mill for sale?

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Re: Oversized Wood Mizer type band Mill.
« Reply #6 on: December 19, 2011, 10:05:03 PM »
I am pretty sure he does!  He should respond in a few days.  Since he is in Costa Rica it might take him a few to get back to you.

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Re: Oversized Wood Mizer type band Mill.
« Reply #7 on: December 28, 2011, 07:50:33 PM »


 Boy am I embarrassed.  :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[  Don't know HOW I missed this question.

 Yes, the mill is still available. If you are still interested PM me, for any questions or photos.

 I would love to have the mill down here, (CR), but, shipping has gone through the roof.

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Re: Oversized Wood Mizer type band Mill.
« Reply #8 on: December 30, 2011, 04:10:55 PM »
See,  you shouldn't ignore us. :P
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Re: Oversized Wood Mizer type band Mill.
« Reply #9 on: December 30, 2011, 05:53:11 PM »

 Not ignoring. Just so busy, that I quick scan for new posts, and just blew right past this one.

 This being retired is for the birds. I may have to retire again, to see if it gets any easier the second time around.  ::) ::)

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Re: Oversized Wood Mizer type band Mill.
« Reply #10 on: December 30, 2011, 07:12:05 PM »
Iam thinking the same thing, Harold. :'(

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Re: Oversized Wood Mizer type band Mill.
« Reply #11 on: January 01, 2012, 07:15:06 PM »
Thanks,
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Re: Oversized Wood Mizer type band Mill.
« Reply #12 on: March 19, 2012, 03:33:57 PM »
Just curious if the mill is still for sale or if it has been sold? Thanks. Andy.

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Re: Oversized Wood Mizer type band Mill.
« Reply #13 on: March 19, 2012, 03:50:18 PM »

 The mill is still for sale. If it doesn't sell soon, I may have the Honda 24HP engine shipped down here, to put on my new build bandmill.

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Re: Oversized Wood Mizer type band Mill.
« Reply #14 on: March 20, 2012, 09:56:32 PM »
i have some beautiful sinker for sale and would like some advice on how to sell it and how much should i sell it for?any advice would be appreciated.  thanks mike.

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« Reply #15 on: March 20, 2012, 09:58:45 PM »
also i am new here so i would like to say hello to everyone and hope things are going well for ya'll :)

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Re: Oversized Wood Mizer type band Mill.
« Reply #16 on: March 21, 2012, 08:12:41 AM »

 First thing, where are you located ?? I'm finding more and more people will not put there state-country in their profile ?????????

 By reading y'all, I'm assuming you are in the south of the USA ?????????

 Welcome to the forum.

 My son and I did 4 years of sinker log salvage and sawing. You have to get very creative to sell that wood.

 Is it logs ?? Is it sawn ?? Is it dried ??

 More info can get more info.  ;D ;D

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Re: Oversized Wood Mizer type band Mill.
« Reply #17 on: March 21, 2012, 08:37:33 AM »
hi harold i am located in dulac louisiana  and i have logs and green cut lumber clearfaced and also have a bunch of air dried pecky and no1 and no 2 cypress. it was late when i found the site last night and i am not a computer whiz :). i have read through the site and it seems like you are the man to go to get the answers from ;D. thank you for answering .... mike

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« Reply #18 on: March 21, 2012, 08:40:06 AM »
i also want to say i am glad to hace found this site and i thank ya'll for the friendly atmosphere and warm welcome :).

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Re: Oversized Wood Mizer type band Mill.
« Reply #19 on: March 21, 2012, 01:14:57 PM »
  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:  Man to go to, EH ???  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

 Naah, I'm just retired 1 time. Some of these guys are not and some are retired twice.  :laugh: :laugh: They all have to work harder than I do.  ;) :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

 I have done the Sinker logs-lumber market, so, I can tell you what I did.

 Spruce up your computer skills, or, ask some kid to help you build a website.  ::) ::) THAT will get you some interest going.

 I did newspaper ads, and sold some ( many) 3" thick, live edge, table slabs. The mill that is for sale, was built for the 36" wide table slab market. We sold quite a bit of 2" stuff, to be used for the table legs and frame. 1" was more difficult to sell, to get the better prices.

 A LOT of people don't equate the age of the logs, to the beauty that comes from the stained water the logs were laying in-under, for well over 100 years or so.

 I finally found a market for several Mbd/ft in Charleston, South Carolina. We didn't have a kiln, so, once the wood started drying, we would stack it up in the attic of our house, spread out, of course. That would get us into the under 10% moisture range. I delivered several 1 ton pickup loads to a company that did remodeling of those old plantation era houses and hotels and such. They were VERY happy to find a supply of the midnight-chocolate solid cypress.  That was about all 1X lumber.

 The Pecky, I was fortunate to stumble upon buyers right near where we lived, in Florida. They bought every bit of Pecky we could find, or buy, and mark up a little.

 We found that the uglier the log, the more we could charge.  >:D >:D :laugh: :laugh:

 You may take some time to establish a market, but, once you do, you could be very busy. Just need the economy to pick up.

 Let me try a few photos.

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Re: Oversized Wood Mizer type band Mill.
« Reply #20 on: March 21, 2012, 04:50:09 PM »
hi harold thanks for the input and i sure appreciate it  the sinker that i cut so far is one log that produced ~800 bft of cypress that was a bit more  colorful than the ones you had shown in the pictures except the pecky one i have not found any pecky like that yet. i did make the mistake of cutting all but 1- 2 inch slab in 1 inch boards. they range from 25 inches wide to 6-8 inches wide and around 9-11 feet long. the rest of the logs we are stockpiling and leaving it in the water till we can make sure i can sell it. about how much per foot should i ask for it? my mom is from appalachicola florida and i had been hearing about the sinker for years from family over there so when i found some over here ;D i knew what it was and that it was rare and valuable so i started going get them. i also have a friend that has a sawmill but i do not believe that we can get much more than 30 inch slabs out of it and he is the one with all the pecky wood. he has access to quite a bit of sinker too so i am going to talk with him some more and set up that site and take you up on your suggestions. i think i can set up a site on my own but want to make sure i am not getting in over my head before i do. i sure wish i had the money to buy that mill from you i could be there in 14-16 hrs with stops on the way (i have family stretched out along the coast).take care and again thanks for the advice it is surely appreciated.  mike :)

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Re: Oversized Wood Mizer type band Mill.
« Reply #21 on: March 21, 2012, 05:09:43 PM »
i made a mistake on the time it would take me to get there probably by about 6 hrs ::). i sure wish i had the pictures uploaded to show you but when i do upload them i will post them on the site. i sell a few of them logs i just might be headed that way to get that mill if you still have it by then ;D.  take care. mike

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Re: Oversized Wood Mizer type band Mill.
« Reply #22 on: March 21, 2012, 07:43:33 PM »
 When the economy was good, we sold those crooked slabs for $350.00 each. Never found any more of that type logs.  
 Price is negotiable.  ;D ;D ;D

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« Reply #23 on: March 22, 2012, 09:02:40 AM »
thanks harold and i talked with the guy i am working with on this project last night.now i have an idea on the prices to post on the regular and sinker cypress also the pecky :) i have a good bit of sinker still in the water and a bunch more to go get. i just have to get some bigger equipment together so that i can even budge some of these logs i have to pick up and tow home.one log is about 7-8 feet wide by 4-5 feet high by 40 feet long so you know what i am dealing with.i can't wait to see what some of them big boys are going to look like cut. ;D.take care and thanks for the advice ;D ;D :)   mike

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« Reply #24 on: March 22, 2012, 11:58:31 AM »
 We had to do permits and such, in Florida. Built a special boat to raise and carry the logs. Had a 12000 pound Warn electric winch on a rolling carriage. Pull the log(s) from the center of the boat, then stored (carry) them equally balanced under the boat. Worked better than a barge. had 2-40HP Yamamas on it. Could actually plane the thing, going out to look for logs.  ;D ;D ;D

 Couple of photos. We heard about a few 8' across logs, but, we were NOT allowed to take them. Them are Historical.

 Built a special trailer to haul the logs. Could back it up right to the water and use a special arch I built, with a winch cable and snatch block, to set the logs on the tail end, then winch them up and onto the trailer, 3 logs high, if needed. All our hauling was with 1 ton Dually pickups.

 Got lots more photos if they could help you.  Might even try begging a trip to visit y'all.  ;) ;D ;D Haven't been to Louisiana since Fort Polk, in '66.  ::) ::)

 That logging was some of the BEST work we ever did, being on the water and all. Had to constantly figure out things and change plans and ideas, to get some of those logs.  Had a guy spotting logs as he worked on the river. Then, he would load us in his air boat and we would go flying out to see what and where they were. YUP, flying in an air BOAT.  :o :o :o  :laugh: :laugh:  Guy was crazy in a good way.

 Got more ideas on breaking loose and raising logs, also. Do you have enough depth to use an airlift or a water jet ??
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Re: Oversized Wood Mizer type band Mill.
« Reply #25 on: March 22, 2012, 12:31:35 PM »
We used a stainless probe and injected compressed air from a high breasure breathing tank (4500 psi) and could loosen glacure silt enough to get people out when they got stuck.

LOTS of people die on the flats in Alaska as they get stuck in the silt and it locks them in like cement.  Then the tide comes in and they drown.  They worked a stuck victem for 6 hours and never got him out.  He was only stuck up to his knees!  He drowned after hypothermia set in.  He breathed through a hose for 2 hours before finally failing.  Sickest thing ever!

I bet the same principal would work with logs.  Stick the probe under the log and let the compressed air loosen everything up! 
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« Reply #26 on: March 22, 2012, 01:07:46 PM »

 Exactly, Kirk. Sometimes the bottom is so packed, it's difficult to push anything under the logs. A common shop compressor, mounted in the boat, would do the same thing, I would imagine. You know what an airlift is ??

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« Reply #27 on: March 23, 2012, 04:04:33 PM »
wow harold that is a nice rig up you got. i actually am pretty lucky on how i am getting these logs no diving. the army corp of engineers is building some floodgates where i live and my older brother is running a tug on the job and they are pulling the logs out from under the mud for us and making it easy for us to get to.we are using a 55 foot shrimp boat to winch them with and tow them in with soon to be 2 of them. we have a lot on the bayou side and it has a huge oak tree on it to hook a winch to and winch them up to the mill with. we have only milled one log so far and we just got started so it will be a month or 2 before we get into the swing of things. you might want to wait until the shrimping season opens next month and we could bring you shrimping and fishing as well we would be glad to have your company.i had thought about using a water jet this morning and it would work well. where we are working is shallow and hard sandy bottom in fact we broke the tiller on the rudder and have to get one made.i was thinking about making something like you have out of plywood and reinforce it with fiberglass. take care and any picture you want to put up i would be interested in looking at them. thank you for the advice and would welcome any you have to give.   mike

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« Reply #28 on: March 23, 2012, 06:43:42 PM »
 Thanks for the invite, Mike.

 If things don't pick up, economy wise, I will not be able to visit. I don't have a vehicle, in Florida, where my family lives. Would have to see how things go.  Need to stock up on sea sick pills.  I love being on the ocean, but, it doesn't like me.  ::) ::) ::) :P :P :P :laugh:

 Y'all are CHEATING. It's not supposed to be that easy.  >:D >:D :laugh: :laugh:

 I will certainly stay in touch. hm in cr at g mail will get to me. Send me an email and we can stay better connected. I will send more photos, also

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Re: Oversized Wood Mizer type band Mill.
« Reply #29 on: March 24, 2012, 07:25:54 AM »
Air lift would work I would think by attaching it to a set of tongs provided the log wasnt to packed in the mud.

If you think compressor shop air works try a 45000psi air tank!  It can cut holes through your skin if your not carfull. 
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« Reply #30 on: March 24, 2012, 09:35:04 AM »
 Kirk, is that 45 000  or 45 00 ???  We used scuba tanks, 3250 PSI to fill the round boat fenders, used as lift bags, for lifting cannons, and such, treasure diving on Spanish wreck sites. Had several for trying on logs, but, never had the open space in the narrow rivers, to use them, without boats running over them, if the log lifted overnight.

 Airlift needs a decent depth of water, to get enough OOMPH to pull the sand and debris up the tube. The tube is only attached to the airline, which enters near the very bottom end of the tube, so the rushing-expanding air creates a suction as it rises. We had a 6" and an 8" when working the Bahamas wreck site. When a Conch shell goes up the 8" tube, and falls back, it hits the hard hat diving helmet, OR, hits a shoulder. It CAN hurt. Also, if you let the tube get away, it will start digging to China. It's hell getting the valve turned off, when trying to fight the lift, the weight of the tube, and sliding around in the loose sand you are breaking loose.

 I LOVE working in the water. Keeps you thinking, so you don't get screwed up. That log diving was in coffee stained water. Couldn't see past your hand, or even not that far, sometimes.

 I'm hoping to get a chance to visit the guys operation. Another chapter in my adventure novel.  ;D ;D ;D

 With the current price of gold, when are you headed off to Haines ???  I could do a visit up there, also.  I gots 'sperense gold getting, even dredging.  >:D >:D :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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« Reply #31 on: March 24, 2012, 12:32:32 PM »
4500  - my bad

Haines on hold until after the revolution >:(
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« Reply #32 on: March 24, 2012, 02:18:39 PM »

 I can visit for THAT, also.  >:D >:D >:D >:D

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« Reply #33 on: March 25, 2012, 07:51:21 PM »
Were ready, just get here!
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