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Offline camastown

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my buddy al gore
« on: February 23, 2010, 10:46:00 PM »
 I am new at this forum and I know some forums have rules. I want to know if I am allowed to say bad things about al gore and his greenie followers. opps I already made fun of some one. Well let me know, Thanks tt
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Re: my buddy al gore
« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2010, 05:17:10 AM »
Won't bother me ;D

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Re: my buddy al gore
« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2010, 07:17:46 AM »
Freedom of Speech is still OK just keep it clean! 

I think its pretty telling to see.........or not see much of Al Gore these days ;D  He has taken himself out of the public eye and after his Radio America went bankrupt I hope he sees the writing on the wall.  Wishfull thinking I know but I have to say it is sad to see how few networks are sharing the bogus information.  They still want to support a lie.  :(
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Re: my buddy al gore
« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2010, 02:07:35 AM »
We just live in some strange times. i'm sure every generation says the same thing, but this generation has grown up with the idea that god and country is  a view that we should keep to our self. Each generation gets more distant from what once was a way of life. Now it just too much trouble for some people. They are just too tired at the end of the day.We have this materialistic economy that requires two incomes,insurance that we must pay dearly for, so we will be able to tip toe around in our fragile, sue happy society. I some times run my mill thinking when are my neighbors going to turn me in? Where has our freedom gone? I realize we should be kind to our neighbors .Now we need to worry, and peek around every corner to see if the tax man is watching. The government is just to big ,they need to dig into our blue jeans to get every dime they can. Me , there is no more dimes, I'm tapped out. Then we have the people that believe if we just recycle, drive electric cars and raise the tax on cigarettes that all our problems will be solved. But wait these  are the same greenies that think there is a thing called clean coal.But yet we can't burn firewood ,that may kill us all. I would like to start a fire wood business and buy a American built processor, but I may be put out of business due to burning restriction ,taxes and insurance costs  . But lets let people freeze , there is a day coming when people wont be able to afford to heat there homes[ wait that day is here] and they won't be able to gather up some twigs to stay warm, because the gore greenies will be down at the end of streets waiting to write fines.We have a situation in Washington state at the Oregon border. Oregon is taking pictures of cars and trucks crossing the boarder and if you have a truck with a ladder rack and are not licensed to do biz in Oregon, they will send a letter in the mail to you asking why you are in there  state. Whats next , the  Nazi ss going to do boarder checks? Careful they made confiscate our portable mills. I  guess i will have to buy a camo tarp when i go to franks. Well its getting late and a I have rambled on enough. I would like to know if any one out there shares these views I think its important to talk about this stuff, how else can we change the world. Thanks tt
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Re: my buddy al gore
« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2010, 08:34:56 AM »
I think we ALL agree with those views! 

We have to get involved and take our country back! 
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« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2010, 12:20:08 PM »
IMHO the key to the whole thing is the ability of government to spend money they don't have and promise to pay out money in the future that they don't have based on expectations of the future.

At the Fed level it's called deficit spending at the state level is called raise taxes through scare tactics or the promise to make the other guy pay.  I was taught in high school that the national debt was OK because we owed it to ourselves (remember savings bonds?). Frank you probably remember that?   But somewhere along the way the "ourselves" got lost.  If we had been told it was OK because we were going to borrow it from Japan the US would have become enraged at the idea. 

The cure is to cut off the revenue source.   

Much of that is happening.  It's just a slow process.  As more and more people lose their jobs the accountable revenue source is drying up.  Many of those job losses are just driving the economy underground where income is made but not reported.   People are discovering that $10 an hour unreported is as good as $20 reported.  Society will survive but not as the norm we now consider.

Many people are looking toward self reliance like in growing gardens for food, picking up road kills to feed there pets (Kirk) and just not buying the services of others (lawn care, car washes, etc.)  All positives in my book.  In the long run thing will work out to the betterment of our lives.  The problem is we live in the short run.  What is happening is, in a sense good.  It's just how do you want to take the band aide off, fast or slow?

Government will do what ever they can to preserve their power and income.  "Law enforcement" such as driving violations with massive fines,  tax evasion prosecution to set examples, fines if you don't buy insurance, will only be learning experiences for the people and they will learn better how to avoid such.  Example:  If I don't have a reported income, if I don't have anything deducted from a pay check, I don't have to file with the IRS.  If I don't have a SS# the government doesn't know who I am.  If we don't "bank" or charge things on our credit card there is no record.
 
We "consent" to much of what's going on by participating at some level.  We've been taught that we have no choice.  We really do.  By choice and by chance fewer and fewer people are participating.  It's kind of like, "What if we had a war and nobody showed up?" 

I've spent the last 30 years or so voting "No" on much of the new proposed tax increases and count it lucky when my way prevails.  Haven't got to count much.  I'm starting to feel a little bit vindicated in my view points, just a little.

The fiction I'm currently reading says, the Wizards first rule is:  'People are stupid and only see what they expect to see'.  And much of what they see is what's told to them to see. 

In sales there is a classic close technique call "fatal decision".  "Did you want the red one or the blue one?"  Damned if you do and damned if you don't The proper answer may well be, "None of the above" but your not allowed that choice by the asker!  Example:  Today the question is how can government fix the health care problems in America (red or blue?).  My answer is to tax the hell out of corn syrup and imported sugar and get government out of the health care business.  Nobody has offered that as a choice.

Hope is alive and change is happening.  The mule will do what ever you tell it, but sometimes you have to smack him upside the head with a 2 x 4 to get his attention.

Less than 20% of Americans in 1776 were adamantly against British rule.  And see what it got us.
 
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Re: my buddy al gore
« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2010, 12:32:07 PM »
Very well put Steve!  Couldnt agree more!
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« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2010, 09:47:15 AM »
go to you tube and watch a guy named Peter Schiff. search we owe peter schiff apology. He predicted our current economy. 
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Re: my buddy al gore
« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2010, 06:46:24 PM »
Yep, Steve I remember the task of taking out nickles and dimes to fill a card to buy bonds during the Korean War.   We even learned to knit in the third grade to make squares for blankets,that our mothers crochet together, for the vets in the Portland hospital, during those times.  Some good lessons taught.  We tried that in our schools today, someone would be arrigned and jailed on some sort of charge, I am sure. 

 Tracy, I will begin to look for a camo outfit for you and you mill.  I am also looking for some black paint with a good amount of cobalt to jam radar units.  Any ideas?

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« Reply #9 on: March 12, 2010, 09:39:58 PM »
You want a camo outfit?  I got camo outfits.  Real camo outfits.  They say STEVE over the pocket but that comes off!
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Re: my buddy al gore
« Reply #10 on: March 17, 2010, 01:11:22 AM »
That's funny frank, but we could see that in our life time. My father served in ww2 to fight the communist way of thinking. We feared it, and we kept it away, through the lives of young men that defended our way of life.Now we have a socialist ,near communist, president. Lets do the math,1940s minus 2010= 70 years, that's less that one mans life time that we see ,in our country today, what those men gave their lives to fight off. It is a disgrace.I tear up when I watch one of the TV shows where they are interviewing that old 90year old ww2 veteran, and he is telling that heroic war story. Where are we headed now? Are we seeing what the bible predicted as the end times? What are we to do if god himself said it will happen, how do we stop it or do we stop it?  Should we just sit back and say " we told you so" to the non believers. Part of me wants to be like my father and go to war and fight back the enemy and part of me wants gods will .We live in a confused society.We want to be free and this modern government want to control every part of our life.I do still feel free, I refuse to let someone control my spirit.We do live in the greatest country on this planet we need to band together and serve,and take care of our brothers.     Hope you guys don't mind but I would like to write about my fathers war story. He fought in the Solomon islands in ww2 ,his ship was sunk, was almost killed, he received a purple heart. My father never talked much about the war, that's one thing I regret in life is that I never asked my dad about those times. Just before he died he did tell me this story.He was a radio man when his ship sunk so at that time he switched to the marines for a short time.  .He was on duty the night JFK's ship was sunk ,My father received a radio communication from JFK the night the pt109 was rammed . That night JFK was not floating around like like history tells but he was actually trying to out run the Japanese destroyer.My father received the radio communication just prior to the pt109 being rammed.JFK was trying to get permission to drop his depth charges.Those pt boats were made of wood and to drop his load would allow the boat to go faster, to out run the destroyer. A few days after he told me that story he died of cancer caused by PCB exposure [He worked for the government,BPA]at the age of 67, two years after he retired. SAD
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« Reply #11 on: March 17, 2010, 07:03:21 AM »
thanks for shairing that story
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« Reply #12 on: March 17, 2010, 09:20:27 AM »
 There are organizations already in the USA, to take back the Country.  Problem is, there are boisterous drunk morons as members, and they run off at the mouth, at every opportunity.

  The MEDIA and Govt infiltrators have succeeded in destroying the means for these orgs to do anything to start the take back. When the Govt can have people like Randy Weaver in Prison, after killing his wife and sons, there is not much civilians can do. The Govt has the panseys and whiners and DEMS on their side, so the Propaganda gets spread, and these Militias are laughed at, ridiculed and put down, at every turn. NO ONE outside the Orgs, takes them serious.

  There is no organizing behind closed doors to start a Revolution. Everyone wants there face in front of cameras, to shout out derogatory comments, and THAT has effectively turned off MOST Civilians.

  The ones stockpiling food and arms believe they have a fighting chance. Trust me, they will fall. Laser guided missiles and HORDES of screaming half-drunk morons, leading mobs, will overrun these holdouts, and make big gestures of how "THEY WON".  They have no idea what they managed to accomplish.

  Am I a defeatist ??? NO, I'm a realist. I see this happening all over the world. Take away the guns and you are finished as a free Nation. Massachusetts has just started the ball rolling, from one, ONE morbidly stupid JUDGE.   The USA is on the verge of collapse. No industry to build weapons or other defense systems. What is there now will be the first to be taken out, leaving nothing. There is NO money, NO leadership, NO serious thought to consequences. These Pelosi-Clinton- Obama types, THINK there will be a place for them in the new ORDER. What fools. They will be the first to go. No ORG wants people that CAN organize. They want sheep that do what they are told.

  Just look around you. Everyone thinks things are OK, and will go back to normal.  ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

  War heroes ??? Where ???   Did anyone see the story about the Officer that was about to be overrun at his severely battered companies location ???  He called in airstrikes that were 10 METERS outside his boundaries. He was awarded the Silver Star. Upon further investigation, he was dealt a harsh blow, because he "ENDANGERED HIS MEN". WHAT THE HELL??? ???  HE SAVED THEM from barbaric treatment and possibly death. NOW, he most probably will be Court Martialed and thrown out of the Military. WAR HEROES???  From days gone by, but, not in THIS day and age.

  God Bless folks like our Fathers and Brothers, Aunts and Uncles, that GAVE A DAMN.
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Re: my buddy al gore
« Reply #13 on: March 17, 2010, 08:06:44 PM »
THIS SHEEP BITES BACK >:(

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« Reply #14 on: March 17, 2010, 10:59:11 PM »
camastown

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With 25 years in the military one of the thing I noticed is that combat veterans don't talk about their experiences in combat. People outside of the military might think that such talk is part of every BS session or goes on all the time in the NCO club over drinks, but it doesn't.  And it's kind of an taboo to ask about it.  You may well be the only one your father ever told his story to.

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Glen Beck started the 9-12 project and it isn't about guns and drinking, it's about taking back the government through the ballot box.   But the 9-12 project is only one of many groups that are gathering with the similar goals and they all more or less fall under the banner of "The Tea Party"  The common thesis of the various groups is that government (at all levels) is out of control and needs to be reined in. People won't like what it takes. Curtailing government spending and thus government power will hurt many people that have learned to feed at the public trough. 

By nature conservative don't want anything to do with government,  the less the better.  Just leave me alone.  Well, while we been leaving it alone it hasn't left us alone.  For it to leave us alone we must NOT leave it alone.  It's time to get back involved.  But you can't fix everything. You must focus on some one thing.  Focus is the thing.  Get good at it and go for it.

The more I read the Constitution the more I realize that what I was taught in school about it was so superficial as to be laughable (and that includes college).  Three division of government, HA, HA.  There are at least four.  Seems the teachers forgot "WE the People".  Congress has forgotten that they work under designated or named powers, not under the general welfare.  "For the General Welfare" as a reason to do anything was laid to rest over 200 years ago by one of the people that wrote the Constitution (read Federalist Papers). And there are more checks and balances than you can shake a stick at.  The check of last resort is the 2nd amendment. 

"There are organizations already in the USA, to take back the Country.  Problem is, there are boisterous drunk morons as members, and they run off at the mouth, at every opportunity."

Not all of them are that way Harold

You might look here:  http://www.resistnet.com/

                 or here:   http://www.ourcaucus.com/

                 or here:http://www.the912project.com/the-912-2/

I'm sure there are other more local groups for your area that are active

Last weekend I went to a conference with this man, Bob Basso, speaking http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeYscnFpEyA

I asked him if his being at that meeting (in civilian garb) was a calling or a job.
He told me that 11 months ago he put his life on hold so he could stand up for what he believed.  The Tom Paine persona has taken on a life of it's own he's had over 200 speaking engagements in the the last 11 months. 

I can't do everything but I can do something and if a million people do one thing then a million things get done.  To take back government assumes a taker.  Somebody is going to pull your strings.  The only question is whether it's you or somebody else. ;D

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« Reply #15 on: March 18, 2010, 08:07:58 AM »

 Never meant to imply that all those groups are the way I described. Fact is, the ones that get the front page exposure, are the ones the Media chooses to push to the masses. 

  For example. Take Charleton Hesston and Jesse Ventura.  There are were BOTH Actors. Hesston never received much bad press, even though he was head of NRA.  Jesse DID receive bad press, even though he was Governor of Minnesota. Hesston was an excellent speaker, Ventura was a boisterous loud mouth.

  This is JUST an example of how the Media sells itself, by promoting whatever ideas IT wants to put to the people. It's ALL crap. Most people don't BELIEVE things are as bad as they really are.

 Lumber comes from the Lumber Yard, HD, Lowes, Milk comes from grocery stores, along with Bread and Cereal. Beef and Pork the same. The kids are taught animals sing and dance, think and talk. The world has gotten turned upside down, to make it easier to be domineered by a FEW.

  Fighting today, by armed forces, is NOTHING like what we were taught. I followed my own ideas, to get back home in 1 piece. There won't BE much Desert combat in the USA, and not much computer controlled arms to fight back WITH.

  As Kirk says, "It's gonna get ugly". I agree.

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« Reply #16 on: March 18, 2010, 11:53:03 AM »
I too agree, it's going to get ugly.
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Re: my buddy al gore
« Reply #17 on: March 18, 2010, 05:35:59 PM »
Glenn Beck reported that a Group in Alaska met in Kenai to discuss organizing an armed movement against the goverment.

The other group was Constitutialists for the 2nd Amendment, or something like that.  Both discussed taking up arms!

Prepary gentleman.  It IS going to get ugly before it gets better!
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Re: my buddy al gore
« Reply #18 on: March 21, 2010, 02:42:44 AM »
what does the past  teach us about the situation we are in?
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« Reply #19 on: March 21, 2010, 07:46:21 AM »
Nothing if we dont teach the past to our children, which is what has happen. 

Once we KNOW our history we can see clearly what is happening and a stand is going to have to be taken.  I think what happens today is going to be a major event that will anger enough people that the polotitions are finally going to fear the people. 

I pray this bill today does not pass!
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« Reply #20 on: March 21, 2010, 03:54:26 PM »
Looks to me there going to pass it anyway >:(

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