Sawmill and Timber

Forestry, Logging and Building => Timber Management => Topic started by: Frank Pender - AKA "Tail Gunner" on April 10, 2008, 09:10:00 AM

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Title: log market
Post by: Frank Pender - AKA "Tail Gunner" on April 10, 2008, 09:10:00 AM
How about some log market stats in your area?

Douglas Fir saw logs are going from $435 to $525 a thousandin this area of Oregon
Grand Fir is really in the bucket at $300 to $325 a thousand.

Chip and saw is the best it has been for some time, at $52 to $57 a ton for Douglas Fir

The straight chip market is not all that great at asbout $42 a ton for For the Firs.

Hardwoods are running around $22 to $27 a ton for chip logs

Oregon Oak in in the neighborhood of $400 to $475 a thousand for saw logs.

Western Red Alder is about the highest at $800 a thousand for number one saw logs

Western Red Cedar, I have heard is up to $1,800 a thousand for no. 1 saw logs.
Title: Re: log market
Post by: Stevem on April 10, 2008, 11:24:04 AM
Local mill over here 2 weeks ago was paying $375/m for hem-fir for plywood stock.
Did notice that the State sales "no-bid" price was down from ~$100/m to ~$50/m for hemlock stumpage on the coast for at least one sale.  It could be just that sale but that's a major change based on recent history for the area
Title: Re: log market
Post by: Frank Pender - AKA "Tail Gunner" on April 10, 2008, 11:40:31 AM
I think you find that will be the norm for some time to come,Steve.  Just part and parcel of the economy around here.
Title: Re: log market
Post by: Frank Pender - AKA "Tail Gunner" on April 14, 2008, 07:41:49 PM
Found out that Grand Fir is holding around $375 around here as well, today.  I look for some things to begin to break lose around the latter part of May, due to so many mills shuting down for long period of time and all.  Many mills in Canada are shut indefinetly, so I have heard, due to the economy sand the rate of exchange for the dollasr.
Title: Re: log market
Post by: adk patroller on April 22, 2008, 04:28:20 PM
Black Cherry Veneer $1250-$5,500, Extra $950, Prime $750, #1 $550
Yellow Birch Veneer $900-$1,800, Extra $750, Prime $550, #1 $350
Hard Maple  Veneer $700-#3,500, Extra $700, Prime $550, # 1 $325
Soft Maple      _____ _______     Extra $400, Prime $300, #1 $225
Title: Re: log market
Post by: Frank Pender - AKA "Tail Gunner" on April 22, 2008, 05:58:15 PM
adk, are these generally up or down from the recent past?
Title: Re: log market
Post by: adk patroller on April 23, 2008, 07:03:36 AM
Yellow Birch and Soft Maple are stable.
Black Cherry and Hard Maple are down $50 over a year ago.
Title: Re: log market
Post by: Steve G. on May 09, 2008, 07:12:04 AM
What do you guys mean by "The straight chip market"? What is a straight chip?
Title: Re: log market
Post by: Frank Pender - AKA "Tail Gunner" on May 10, 2008, 09:26:19 AM
Steve, that is where the wood fiber is used for chipping alone; not for sawing, firewood, etc..
Title: Re: log market
Post by: Steve G. on May 11, 2008, 12:50:53 PM
Thanks
Title: Re: log market
Post by: Kirk Allen on May 11, 2008, 06:39:56 PM
Around here the wood pulp is bringing $2 a ton to the land owner and the loggers are getting $24 ton.  Pretty sad when the landowner doesnt even see half of the revenue for his property.
Title: Re: log market
Post by: adk patroller on May 11, 2008, 07:33:14 PM
At $24/ton for pulp that works out to around $210/MBF.  In this area we consider the average cost per MBF of getting logs to the landing at $150.  That leaves $60/MBF for trucking pulp to the Mill and paying the land-owner for the stumpage.  I don't think the loggers are getting rich either at $4.50/gal for diesel.
Title: Re: log market
Post by: Kirk Allen on May 12, 2008, 02:21:24 AM
I agree the loggers are not making ends meet in some cases but it use to be 50/50 for pulp and is in "most" cases but we have a few loggers that are the kind that give all the good ones a bad name, if you know what I mean.