Author Topic: Very grateful to local tree farm (Read 40467 times)

Eddiebo · « **on:** August 22, 2012, 05:27:54 PM »

Local Texas pine tree farm offered me 50 plus standing dead pines from our last drought. I will start cutting on Monday to see just how solid the wood is. Owner offered to load all logs for me. Will this lumber keep in a drying shed until next year when we start to build our home if I saw it and sticker it as required. Just wondering because the trees are dead standing trees.

Stevem · « **Reply #1 on:** August 23, 2012, 12:29:28 AM »

Free is always good, Free and loaded is even better. Is Texas pine commonly used as a framing lumber? Some pines are not very strong.

Dead standing is better than laying dead. Less bugs and less rot. A lot depends on how long they've been dead. You might be getting into the firewood business.

Don't know about Texas pine but dieing Oregon pine gets lots of bugs. Worm holes add "character" to the wood. We also get what they call "blue stain." Very pretty but it's caused by a fungus that leads to rot. Can hurt the marketability of the wood but for framing lumber it isn't a problem. I've used it in making blanket/toy boxes. Looks nice.

Powder post beetles can be a problem. Heat treating or chemical treatment is needed.

Cut then sticker as soon as you can. Pine is notorious for mold if it isn't properly dried.

HaroldCR - AKA Fla.-Deadheader · « **Reply #2 on:** August 23, 2012, 08:11:36 AM »

Steve, That blue stain is called "Denim Pine". Brings a premium if you market it right. It's hard to come by- VERY limited supply.

Stevem · « **Reply #3 on:** August 24, 2012, 06:04:37 AM »

Forgot about "Denim Pine" and have to keep reminding myself not to call spalting "rot" in front of customers.

Premium wood if you have the right name.

Don't you just love the language!

HaroldCR - AKA Fla.-Deadheader · « **Reply #4 on:** August 24, 2012, 09:24:56 AM »

It's called "Marketing".

I had that drove into my skull when we were up to our eyeballs in Sinker Logs and getting screwed by the sawmill that was buying-stealing from us.

Rocks are common-no value. "PET" rocks are not common, BIG value.

Eddiebo · « **Reply #5 on:** August 30, 2012, 10:36:54 AM »

Started logging these Pines on Monday, and have been getting four 12 ft logs per tree on average. Downed 8 so far, and the wood is solid all the way to the tips. No tops are breaking off, even as they fall through the trees. Good solid Pine for the milling. Still haven't decided on another mill to buy on a $3000 budget, but have been looking at Hudson's new HFE 21, and the Harbor Freight mill. Want to buy something for cash on hand , and not OWE NOBODY !!!!! I think either mill will cut. Just not for production

HaroldCR - AKA Fla.-Deadheader · « **Reply #6 on:** August 30, 2012, 01:00:57 PM »

Only thing I will say about mills, is, watch that you do not have to put the blade inside the framework, and then, have to put it on the wheels.

You want the front of the sawhead to be completely open. Otherwise, you are fighting with a wildcat, if that blade gets a chance to get away from you.

The LT-15 for sale on the FF is just about the best deal you will find. Don't know how far North Ga. is from you, though. The price has dropped to under $4000.00 I believe.

Good luck with whatever you go with.

HaroldCR - AKA Fla.-Deadheader · « **Reply #7 on:** August 30, 2012, 03:16:17 PM »

I see you are somewhere in Texas, so, that LT-15 would not be the best deal for you. Too bad, it's hardly been used.

Eddiebo · « **Reply #8 on:** September 08, 2012, 06:08:38 PM »

The logs I harvested from this farmer 2 weeks ago are starting to crack lengthways, and seperate at growth rings. WHY

??

Stevem · « **Reply #9 on:** September 09, 2012, 01:48:07 AM »

On the ends or full length? Just ends might just be drying stress.

Frank Pender - AKA "Tail Gunner" · « **Reply #10 on:** October 14, 2012, 11:51:20 PM »

Seal the ends and keep them in the shade as much a possible.

Buzz Sawyer · « **Reply #11 on:** November 23, 2012, 11:17:09 PM »

ever get lumber out of your pine?

Kirk Allen · « **Reply #12 on:** November 24, 2012, 09:25:16 AM »

I just finished up a trailer load of white pine. Got a couple thousand bf of construction stud stuff from it.

Buzz Sawyer · « **Reply #13 on:** November 26, 2012, 03:26:56 AM »

Is it for a customer, a or are you gonna build that shop?

Kirk Allen · « **Reply #14 on:** November 26, 2012, 08:21:59 AM »

Its for my personal use. SOMEDAY I will get the shop built but not in this economy!

Speaking of lumber, don't forget that Alaska has a 10K BF personal use program through the department of forestry, EVERY YEAR!

HaroldCR - AKA Fla.-Deadheader · « **Reply #15 on:** November 26, 2012, 11:22:19 AM »

Have portable sawmill, will travel.

Once it warms up a bit. Maybe.

Buzz Sawyer · « **Reply #16 on:** November 27, 2012, 05:53:56 AM »

Guys with bandmills, square logs on 1 or 3 sides to make cabin wall kits then sell them for a min. of 20k......thats a mark up

HaroldCR - AKA Fla.-Deadheader · « **Reply #17 on:** November 27, 2012, 07:34:12 AM »

I have the Peterson. Circle blades adds character to the lumber.

Kirk Allen · « **Reply #18 on:** November 27, 2012, 09:13:45 AM »

I wonder how that is working out this many years after the bark beetle kill on all the spruce in Alaska. I know they were harvesting dead standing for that purpose when I was up there and we left in 94. I suspect a LOT of that market dried up but maybe not.

Buzz Sawyer · « **Reply #19 on:** November 27, 2012, 01:45:36 PM »

From what I can tell,"Cedar, spruce, pine, fir and larch in the order named, are the most desirable species for log cabin construction" there are still stands of spruce around but I have seen lots of suitable sized logs of other types laying around in slash piles....lots of good logs get cut for fireood around here...

BUT firewood sells for WAYYYY more than lumber

News:

Poll

Standing dead pines ?

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