RiverForest, no need to sneak in the back door here. If folks don't like what's said, well, it seems like not much is said, so it works pretty good for that. My only regret left over from the FF is a few folks I never got their e mail accounts, there were several folks I enjoyed visiting with but never got the e mails, only pm's so all contact lost with several folks I enjoyed sharing thoughts with. The only two I ever had issues with were one from Maine/NH, and the other Mississippi, and I did call them both out, not in a bad way, just a straight up, from my experiences kinda way. I was told I would never make it to heaven, Oh, wait that was after the sorry SOB reference,. anyway, I'm looking forward to future conversations,