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Offline Leeroy

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Husk and flat belt
« on: October 04, 2017, 02:07:03 PM »
Good afternoon,
Any advice on moving the husk from a chase handset mill? Specifically should I be breaking it down any? Or remove as little as possible?
Are the flat belts as easy as they look to take apart?
Thanks,Lee
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Re: Husk and flat belt
« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2017, 02:13:02 PM »
Take LOTS of pictures and video if possible!  Less is better!
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Re: Husk and flat belt
« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2017, 05:48:24 PM »
Leeroy,

Try to dismantle the sawmill in as few pieces as necessary.  But don't go to big and have a piece be to large to control while loading/unloading.

As Kirk said, take LOTS of pics... can't have to many.  Graph paper and illustrate the mill with measurements notated... can't have to many measurements.  It also pays huge dividends to have alignment marks where pieces come back together.

The more documentation you do before hand, the less guess work you'll have after the fact.

Attempt to move the husk in one piece if possible.

Good luck with the project.   ;)
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Re: Husk and flat belt
« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2017, 06:09:03 PM »
Lee, all good advice given, the less you dismantle on the husk the better. Most of the flat belts are connected with Clipper lacing, there should be a round piece of rawhide (called cat gut) that can be pulled out if you want to separate the belts. Frank C.
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Re: Husk and flat belt
« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2017, 06:42:58 PM »
I really miss my Meadows Mill....the husk and bed were built together...a great set up. Now I am a mortal band mill owner.
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Re: Husk and flat belt
« Reply #5 on: October 04, 2017, 06:55:03 PM »
Frank,

I haven't seen a rawhide lacing in YEARS.  Talk about bringing up memories from rural Appalachia and antique farm machinery still being used daily.

All I've seen in the past 20 years are clipper laced w/ plastic coated pin  OR  bolt on/thru belt w/ metal pin.

Ahhhh, the good ole days of a buck saw, silage blower, thresher, etc. 
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Re: Husk and flat belt
« Reply #6 on: October 04, 2017, 09:59:37 PM »
Same here - always the later style laces and pins around here too.

I've always contemplated getting an old circle sawmill but relented to the narrow kerf of the bandmills cause I hate waste and I have more time than money, so I also built the damn thing!

How are you coming on your project, Leroy?
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Re: Husk and flat belt
« Reply #7 on: October 05, 2017, 05:20:15 AM »
I sold my Meadows #1 simply because of the time it took to get it set up, and the kerf issues, plus I have an electric bandmill. Pretty easy to slice and dice a log in a moments notice without having to crank up 75 horses and an hour of prep time.

Nut I miss circle milling.....
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Re: Husk and flat belt
« Reply #8 on: October 05, 2017, 07:04:29 AM »
A band mill can be a backyard hobby,  a circular mill is a minor industry. Jeeze guys I'm behind the times my boxes of clipper lacings still has the rawhide pins, but in a pinch I've used brazing rod. Lee does your husk use two flat belts one for feed and the other for gig back if so its called a heacock feed. My Chase uses what they call a friction drive A soft faced pulley is applied to a large flat pulley to feed the carriage and a belt to gig back. If your flat belts are decent keep them if for anything the proper length as it is critical. A carriage that creeps when the mill is running should not be tolerated. Frank C.
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Re: Husk and flat belt
« Reply #9 on: October 05, 2017, 10:13:25 AM »
You guys are dating your selves!
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Offline Leeroy

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Re: Husk and flat belt
« Reply #10 on: October 05, 2017, 03:55:02 PM »
Thanks everyone!
Will keep as much on husk as possible.
Ox not sure if I mentioned it here but the move has begun:
With a flatbed wrecker my BIL borrowed we got the carriage and power unit, a 1936 IH gas motor.
Monday I looked closer at the husk and took the saw off.
The ways are ready to load up, just trying to secure trailer. Suppose I could put them in my truck and strap them in, but I have some reservations about that. They are 14'.
Frank what you describe as friction drive is what it has from what I can tell.
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Re: Husk and flat belt
« Reply #11 on: October 06, 2017, 11:04:30 AM »
Was there a certain time period when they started using friction drive instead of a second belt?
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Re: Husk and flat belt
« Reply #12 on: October 06, 2017, 05:38:40 PM »
Belt drive replaced friction drive.  By the 40s mid forties most were belt. 
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Re: Husk and flat belt
« Reply #13 on: October 06, 2017, 05:43:17 PM »
Welcome Maplemaker. 
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Re: Husk and flat belt
« Reply #14 on: October 06, 2017, 05:45:08 PM »
Thank You 8)
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Re: Husk and flat belt
« Reply #15 on: October 06, 2017, 07:27:04 PM »
When I was setting up my circular mill the friction pulley was a little worse for wear. Had a section of old rubberized cotton belting, cut out a bunch of circles and clamped them on the shaft. Turning with a sharp tool on a lathe restored it to its glory. Frank C.
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Re: Husk and flat belt
« Reply #16 on: October 06, 2017, 09:46:04 PM »
That's a good idea for restoration - hillbilly ingenuity is a thing of beauty.

Welcome to the forum, Maplemaker!  I'm pretty new here too.  I'm a refugee from the Forestry Forum.  I like freedom and truth, and so I'm here now.  Basically because I was banned for saying truth and not being a good little sheeple.  It's interesting to me why the change from friction to two belts.  This was backwards to my thinking (which isn't unusual cause I'm somewhat dyslexic......or is it lysdexic?  :o)  What is the advantage?  Better return control?  Longer life?  Easier replacement?  Cheaper to manufacture?
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Re: Husk and flat belt
« Reply #17 on: October 12, 2017, 11:52:11 AM »
Supposed to be moving the ways and husk on Saturday. The only thing we are taking off the husk is the drive pulley for the saw dust drag chain. We've taken pictures and measurements and will take more of both as we go. If anyone has any last minute advice I am all ears.
Thanks,Lee
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Offline Leeroy

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Re: Husk and flat belt
« Reply #18 on: October 15, 2017, 07:45:19 PM »
Family and I went to a swap meet in Brooklyn,CT today.  One of the vendors has lots of flat belts if anyone needs number let me know.
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Re: Husk and flat belt
« Reply #19 on: October 16, 2017, 09:16:17 AM »
Thanks for thinking of us Leeroy.  :)
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