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Poll

So which do you think ?

Woodland Mills
0 (0%)
Woodmaxx
1 (25%)
Frontier
2 (50%)
Save my money and buy lumber..
1 (25%)

Total Members Voted: 4

Voting closed: February 08, 2018, 03:01:27 PM

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Offline A.O.

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Re: Baby mill reccomendations??
« Reply #350 on: April 14, 2018, 07:54:27 AM »
Glad to see you back.  Have not seen many posts from you as of late.  How is the milling going?
Thanks, didn't really go anywhere.. just been working. Still playing with the mill, trying to stockpile a little misc lumber to use around here. One of my first projects are these raised bed planters.

Heres the parts



And assembled and filled..



Two of them I tried the art of SHOU SUGI BAN on them, charing them to "waterproof" them. I did kind of a partial job on and we will see how they hold up in comparison.

Getting my mini lumber yard stocked up.



Ran out of logs and had to go fell a couple more trees to restock




So I'm still here...

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Re: Baby mill reccomendations??
« Reply #351 on: April 15, 2018, 08:21:29 AM »
Looking good.  Good idea with charring the wood.  I don't know how much it takes to make it last, but charred wood (charcoal) is found thousands of years later cause it don't rot.
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Re: Baby mill reccomendations??
« Reply #352 on: April 18, 2018, 06:52:22 AM »
Looking good.  Good idea with charring the wood.  I don't know how much it takes to make it last, but charred wood (charcoal) is found thousands of years later cause it don't rot.

Just an experiment with the charring, we will see what it does ...

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Re: Baby mill reccomendations??
« Reply #353 on: April 18, 2018, 09:05:37 AM »
I know the old timers used to char the ends of poles that were to go into the ground for pole barns, fences, etc.  They would make sure the char would come above ground a ways because the majority of rot happens at grade and just below a few inches.  If it didn't work, these fellas wouldn't have done it.  This is my way of thinking.  The old timers may have been a little ignorant about the world, but they knew what was worth doing on their home turf.  My only question is the amount of char.  To my understanding they would actually have the pole ends burning in a fire pit for a little while to get it good and charred black.  I'm not sure if the amount of char you did will last as long or what, but I'm sure it'll help to some degree and looks good to boot!  Kinda like a skip-stain and makes the grain kinda pop.
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Re: Baby mill reccomendations??
« Reply #354 on: April 18, 2018, 10:33:38 AM »
I know the old timers used to char the ends of poles that were to go into the ground for pole barns, fences, etc.  They would make sure the char would come above ground a ways because the majority of rot happens at grade and just below a few inches.  If it didn't work, these fellas wouldn't have done it.  This is my way of thinking.  The old timers may have been a little ignorant about the world, but they knew what was worth doing on their home turf.  My only question is the amount of char.  To my understanding they would actually have the pole ends burning in a fire pit for a little while to get it good and charred black.  I'm not sure if the amount of char you did will last as long or what, but I'm sure it'll help to some degree and looks good to boot!  Kinda like a skip-stain and makes the grain kinda pop.

Yes to all that.. And these are not really below grade even though filled with compost. I may also try the "super char" like you are talking on some posts.

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Re: Baby mill reccomendations??
« Reply #355 on: April 18, 2018, 11:12:27 AM »
So this morning.. maybe my largest log yet, and I don't need any larger..



This is my loading set up, the cross pieces just slide across and a notch in them hooks to the rails..



I'm pleased with how square its cutting... knock on wood...



Cutting a slab to cut 2x4's out of..





And the spoils from this mornings log.





Now back to it..


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Re: Baby mill reccomendations??
« Reply #356 on: April 19, 2018, 04:22:13 AM »
 

 Looks good.  Steve

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Re: Baby mill reccomendations??
« Reply #357 on: January 13, 2019, 08:02:12 AM »
I hope you know that you just started spending money...
Lot of other toys to go with a mill.

Log arch
Planer
firewood shed
Lumber shed
cant hooks
Chain saws.
Splitting malls
de-barkers
band setter
band sharpener
logging tape
over head crane to roll logs.
wood working shop.
wood working tools
tree felling wedges
moisture meter
metal detector
electric motor for carriage lift
Blade welder



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Re: Baby mill reccomendations??
« Reply #358 on: January 13, 2019, 09:37:45 AM »
I hope you know that you just started spending money...
Lot of other toys to go with a mill.



Ok, your list.. the stuff I have I checked off, got a ways to go yet though.

Log arch
Planer   XX    I've got two of these now, just picked up a 16" JET, have had a Delta bench model for years.
firewood shed
Lumber shed
cant hooks X
Chain saws. XXX Got 3 of these, unless you count my "chainsaw on a stick" then I have 4
Splitting malls X
de-barkers
band setter
band sharpener  OH I want this one BAD!!
logging tape ??
over head crane to roll logs. That's what my cant hook is for right?  I also have the "hook" from a cant hook I can hook a chain to and use my tractor with on the biggons.
wood working shop. XX
wood working tools  XX
tree felling wedges  XX
moisture meter XX
metal detector XX
electric motor for carriage lift...  I wish! Got a nice hand crank though! ;-)
Blade welder

And you forgot the most important one. A tractor with loader/grapple/forks, without this one there is no reason for a sawmill!

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Re: Baby mill reccomendations??
« Reply #359 on: January 13, 2019, 04:52:18 PM »
You will find that a band setter in more important than a sharper.
A dull blade with good set will cut better than a sharp blade with no set...
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Re: Baby mill reccomendations??
« Reply #360 on: January 13, 2019, 09:37:30 PM »

You will find that a band setter in more important than a sharper.


Far from the truth. 

There are individuals whom lightly face ground their blades, while maintaining consistent hook angle, that would get several runs out of their blades before failure due to cracks... and didn't own a setter.  Back in the day, the only sharpeners you could buy ground only the face.  Blade steel was much different back then too.




A dull blade with good set will cut better than a sharp blade with no set...



If a blade is dull, continuing to saw with it has no merit. 

A sharp blade with no set, hasn't been maintained properly or suffered damage. 

Why use either ??  Let alone debate on which one will saw better.   ::)

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Re: Baby mill reccomendations??
« Reply #361 on: January 14, 2019, 10:36:42 AM »
I have proved this to myself. I use my band blades till they snap. You don't need to set a blade each time you sharpen, but when they still don't cut straight after a good sharpening it's time to set. This is the same for any blade even a table saw blade. If it has no set it wont cut even if it's sharp. In a pinch I have put set in a saw blade with an adjustable wrench and it cuts great. Say what you want but I have done this many times and I've seen it for myself. That's my story and I'm sticking to it...
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Re: Baby mill reccomendations??
« Reply #362 on: January 14, 2019, 10:41:03 AM »
I made my own setter very cheap... Works great...

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