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Offline mike p

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started solar kiln
« on: August 21, 2009, 08:34:35 PM »
I layered cca into the post oak 6x6’s so the oak wood not be in ground contact
You can see the color difference the oak is the gray
 
 
 
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Re: started solar kiln
« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2009, 08:59:43 PM »
im trying different post option on this end
setting bolt in to concrete then will attach short 6"x6" tubeing to bolt then set post oak in to top of tubing ancor with lag screws . by raseing post 2" up from bottem the oak will never touch concrette
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Re: started solar kiln
« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2009, 09:43:34 PM »
Looks like that will work out well!

I hope to start the footers for my shop next week and do the whole pour by the end of September ;D
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Re: started solar kiln
« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2009, 10:00:17 PM »
That is an excellent idea, Mike.  You might also consider attatching a piece of 90 pound felt to the bottom of each post, just for protection.

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Re: started solar kiln
« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2009, 08:18:00 PM »
thanks frank i had not concidered that
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Re: started solar kiln
« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2009, 10:11:52 PM »
Well it seems that my solar kiln project has required many other projects
Because of sloping ground I felt I needed footings to hold the fill.
My boy the carpenter said if your going to put footings under part of the slab you need them under all the way around cause the end that would have no footing will heave & the other end wont so I dug footing all the way around .

Decided to pour footings with my tractor mounted concrete mixer I got at a farm sale. Well it needed some welding to patch rust holes in drum & a new top link cly to dump it. Got one at surplus center.
 So started mixing concrete. Poured about ½ of the footings in one stall & ran out of bank run gravel.

pic this week end
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gravel needed
« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2009, 07:36:30 PM »
well I could hire more gravel delivered but not me I can haul it myself so put a battery in the old grain truck (F750 with twin cly dump) out back & started getting it ready for inspection  .

Found no brakes.  New project tear down rear drums. It has 6”x15” shoes with 2 wheel clys per side. So I called local parts not available, called Springfield brake $260. A side for cly. Called Inland big truck parts in KC, MO. $ 80. A side but took 2 weeks to get here & they didn’t send all the parts ordered. Called back reordered so a another week weighting called to see what happened  “o these must be your parts under my desk been wondering were they went, another 4 days got the adjuster & spring kits but hub seals. Called again he says o we don’t have those.
So back to Oriley’s & he cant cross the old seals # this truck has a 19000 lb rear axle there book says its supposed to be 15000 lb axle so we search every year ford truck in book looking for one that has a 19000 lb axle or one that used 6x15 shoes . Well in 1981 the book shows the 19000lb possible 2 different seals so I bought all 4, 2 of one possible & 2 of the other possible $149.00 well one of them fit but I had to cut the wear ring off for it to work.
Now my truck is ready for inspection but my INS man wants commercial INS $900. For 6 months on it because he knows I own a saw mill. The last time I INS it as a grain truck at $12. A month. I have owned sawmill since 1994 & have never hauled a log with this truck as it’s too tall to load.
Mean while my solar kiln sits weighting patiently for the new projects to catch up.
Do you ever wonder how those guys can build a hole house in 7 days
Hell iam only ½ done with footings 3 months later & still arguing with INS guy, probably going to get new INS guy over this
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Re: started solar kiln
« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2009, 10:35:34 PM »
I know the feeling.  I STILL dont have my foundation poured for my shop.   :(

Went to Dads last week to replace all his breaks.  Even with the parts in hand the idiots at the parts store couldnt get it right.  :(  I opened the box to make sure the pads were right and they were not, yet he insisted they were because his little computer told him so.  :o 

I guess the guy needs to learn how to type in the right numbers because EVERY part he looked up and grabbed for us was wrong.  I have NEVER spent so much time in a parts store waiting for them to get the right parts off the shelf. 

What is this world coming to?  ???
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Re: started solar kiln
« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2009, 07:07:46 AM »

 3 words.  Truck Part City  Google it. I get stuff shipped down here from them.

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Re: started solar kiln
« Reply #9 on: May 26, 2010, 02:23:56 PM »
Got the first 2 bays ready for concrete used up all my odds & ends of foam insulation in the floor

got the retaining wall ready for the 3 bay

my finished post anchor
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Re: started solar kiln
« Reply #10 on: August 04, 2010, 10:57:08 PM »
How are you coming with your kiln, Mike?

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Re: started solar kiln
« Reply #11 on: August 06, 2010, 09:12:12 PM »
well i got the first 2 bays concrete poured & part of footing for 3rd bay . i need to get to work , been haying & working
got a sweet deal on roofing tin & a load of 2x4.
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Re: started solar kiln
« Reply #12 on: November 24, 2010, 07:45:16 PM »
so i guess i for got to post the pic of concrete
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Re: started solar kiln
« Reply #13 on: November 24, 2010, 07:51:25 PM »
so this past week end my oldest son sam (he was a union carpenter & then forman of house rough in crew for several years)
helped me get walls squair & beams up & level. when he wasnt hunting. ill have to get pic loaded & sized to post later.
man im getting excited , was a bummer to have to go to work monday & not keep working on it.
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Re: started solar kiln
« Reply #14 on: November 26, 2010, 06:55:29 PM »
pic of progress
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Re: started solar kiln
« Reply #15 on: December 02, 2010, 10:29:45 PM »
Hi Mike and Frank  I am Brian from south Louisiana.I will be drilling my posts with a 1/2 inch wood auger about 2 ft deep in the center of the post bottom.I will dry pack borax,boric acid in the drilled hole.I will peg the hole and paint 2 coats of industrial epoxy on the bottom 4 ft of the 4x4.I think it will work in my oak and last for a long time.I have been testing things here to try to find a better way of rot prevention.The oak is dry below 20% before epoxy coating.I want to see pics of the kiln when finished Mike. Brian

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Re: started solar kiln
« Reply #16 on: December 10, 2010, 02:45:43 PM »
well i got most the celing joist in & started nailing down oak planks for flooring in the collector loft area
thats about it for now
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Re: started solar kiln
« Reply #17 on: December 10, 2010, 10:43:35 PM »
Mike,

What "R" value are you shooting for in the north wall and floor?  I've got to get mine started this spring and wondering what you came up with.
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Re: started solar kiln
« Reply #18 on: December 11, 2010, 10:20:20 AM »
well i dont know
planning on useing steel industreal insulated bouble hung doors on back wall(north) as i got a sweet deal on them from sons work . they are insulated originaly for sound deading or blocking of machine noise.
the north wall of collector will be 2x4 stud wall with r13 waferboard sealed joints with drywall adhesive & tape then painted then 1/2" foam on inside with foil side to reflect into the collector room
im useing birkeys plan  http://www.timbergreenforestry.com/Solar%20Cycle%20Kilns.html
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Re: started solar kiln
« Reply #19 on: December 11, 2010, 12:20:20 PM »
Mike, I had timbergreens style kiln at my last house. Now I have the Va tek type. I think the timbergreen style works better. Hope to build another next year. It will be timbergreen style kiln. ;D

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Re: started solar kiln
« Reply #20 on: December 11, 2010, 02:38:56 PM »
did you use the 2 layers of bubble & a blower them
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Re: started solar kiln
« Reply #21 on: December 21, 2010, 05:57:49 PM »
What I did was convert an ole 20x16 building. Cut the tin roof and reinstaled on the underside of the rafters and painted black.Used clear plastic roofing for the new roof. I built two insulated chambers under with trunk line running to each. I could use both sides or one. With all the air space in the attic to collect heat The fans would run untill 11:00 at nite be for temps got low enough to stop. It did'nt get any hotter then the kiln I now use but held the heat longer. Dryed lumber at lest 20% faster.

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Re: started solar kiln
« Reply #22 on: December 23, 2010, 05:56:37 PM »
clear plastic roofing for the new roof

do you mean like the corragated semi clear roofing pannels
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Re: started solar kiln
« Reply #23 on: December 23, 2010, 08:53:21 PM »
Yes I got it the home depot. It worked good. I best I could. It would get so hot in that attic you couldnt even go up there in the summer.

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« Reply #24 on: December 23, 2010, 08:56:34 PM »
I sealed it up the best I could. ;D Over lapped a little extra and caulked it every were i could think of.

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Re: started solar kiln
« Reply #25 on: December 24, 2010, 07:34:53 AM »
thanks for input i might call on your experence again
now awaiting weather & time & low body pain to move ahead
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Re: started solar kiln
« Reply #26 on: February 09, 2011, 03:21:03 PM »
Mike P have you finished your kiln ? we built one last year and have dryed one load so far. We do
have a laod in but with the weather we haven't been about to check it. Sure hope its ok. We are
in Raymore Mo. May be this summer we can git down your way.

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« Reply #27 on: February 10, 2011, 04:51:41 PM »
no not finished we got 24+ " snow latley
i am currently out of heart rythem (from shoveling snow) & awaighting a cardiovert shock . doc said i need to take blood thinners for 3 weeks first the the paddles to shock back to normal rythem
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Re: started solar kiln
« Reply #28 on: February 11, 2011, 01:27:57 PM »
Mike i know what you are going threw. I had a heart Attack 3 years ago as i was working in my wood
shop. Had to have two stents put in and then later had to have buypass surgery. i am ok now but have
to take it easy when at the mill. Take care and rest up, the snow will be gone soon.

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Re: started solar kiln
« Reply #29 on: February 11, 2011, 01:56:30 PM »
Mike it sounds like your a good candidate for a pace maker?
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« Reply #30 on: February 11, 2011, 04:59:32 PM »
Mike it sounds like your a good candidate for a pace maker
well mabe this will be the 3 time in 5 years well see what they say
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Re: started solar kiln
« Reply #31 on: June 01, 2011, 01:24:21 PM »
so i got my son to come down a cople days & help me on the fenceing project . well we got done with it & started on the rafters on kiln
the front is the kiln & the back side will be barn type storage
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« Reply #32 on: June 04, 2011, 05:35:35 AM »
Lookin good Mike. Looks like you got lots of air space up top.

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Re: started solar kiln
« Reply #33 on: November 29, 2011, 05:44:32 PM »
 Mike its been some time but have you finished the kiln? We have our running when JR is in town.
 He is in Texas now so no electric for now . When he was here this summer we did two loads. All
the lumber had been air dry about one year so it was down to 12% to start.

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« Reply #34 on: November 30, 2011, 06:18:50 PM »
no not finished i have had some health problems this year AFIB
& my wife has had a knee surgery & a total knee replacment
& my carpenter son has not made it down to help so not much progress

so kirk hows the kiln doing at your place
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« Reply #35 on: March 27, 2012, 07:13:22 PM »
more lift on loader
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« Reply #36 on: March 27, 2012, 07:21:35 PM »
side view
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« Reply #37 on: March 27, 2012, 07:23:49 PM »
im haveing trouble posting
so the guys came down & got more done
needed to lift beams about 4 ' more than the forks would go so i reged this boom out of some old jen poles
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« Reply #38 on: March 27, 2012, 07:25:37 PM »
so kirk hows the kiln doing at your place
have you figgred out the operating cost of the dehumikation system
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Re: started solar kiln
« Reply #39 on: April 11, 2012, 10:53:37 AM »
 :(  NO   :(

I have been so swamped with other stuff I cant keep up with cutting let alond trying to get anything dried. 

Just last week I got over 100 full tree length Easter Red cedar logs for FREE!  I am BURIED!

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« Reply #40 on: April 11, 2012, 03:16:50 PM »
Sure would like to get some cedars here. Could sell the heck out of that. But I would'nt have time to mill them either. :laugh:

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« Reply #41 on: April 11, 2012, 08:18:31 PM »
:(  NO   :(

I have been so swamped with other stuff I cant keep up with cutting let alond trying to get anything dried. 

Just last week I got over 100 full tree length Easter Red cedar logs for FREE!  I am BURIED!



Easter egg cedar?  Please send some of those rabbits, please.  I'll pay shipping
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