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Re: Sharpening/Setting procedures
« Reply #25 on: June 02, 2011, 07:09:58 AM »
Updates on sharpener:
Called WM yesterday to ask them to walk me through using the setter.  Got to talking to Tech support guy about sharpener and we figured out I've been sharpening our TK blades, which have a 10 deg. profile...with a 9 deg. cam.  Hmmm...could be a problem.  So, I ordered a 10 deg cam, dressing stone, new grinding wheel and one more bottle of coolant.  The person who took my order also let me in on how the magnet works that stops the sharpener when it makes a full round!  Revelation, man!   8)  My package should be here Friday!  We figured out this is why I'm taking the hook out of the teeth while I'm grinding, squaring off the gullet and not grinding very much of the gullet.  I understand I will still not be getting a "perfect" grind using a WM sharpener on a TK blade...but I'm thinking it will be better.  I've GOT to get that gullet! 

Even got a compliment:  Tech guy said in all his years of milling, sharpening, and working at WM...I was the first EVER woman he'd talked to who does this.  I told him I was educated on the Sawmill Forum...and he said "they must be teaching you good, 'cause if all you've done is 17 blades, you seem to know alot about what you're doing...or should be doing."  He said there were alot of people out there who order sharpeners/setters and then they get discouraged cause they can't do it right. Hmmm...that's a shame when all this information is sitting right here! 

Salesman also emailed me copy of Setter manual...it's downloading in my email right now.  Have today off from the store, so I'm gonna go set some blades!!!  WOOO HOOO!  I still haven't received the manuals in snail mail.  Also emailed me a blade profile sheet.  Ain't he so helpful!!!  I'm gonna have stuff tacked on the walls everywhere (Harold's posts...manual...profile sheet...) 

Thank you all again...one more time!  I'm gonna have to get a diploma or something when I finally get good at this:  "Degree of Blade-ology...from The Sawmill Forum...professors Harold, Frank, Carl, Kirk, etc, etc, etc,...."   ;D  (and what do you call this "science" anyhow?)
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Re: Sharpening/Setting procedures
« Reply #26 on: June 02, 2011, 09:17:26 AM »
(and what do you call this "science" anyhow?)
 
 
 
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Re: Sharpening/Setting procedures
« Reply #27 on: June 02, 2011, 12:06:32 PM »
LOL Mike!  I thought I was already a "fun-ologist"!!  Am I delving into just another specialty of fun?   ::)

Please tell me that the rest of you men out there at least occasionally read directions.  Took the setter to the mill so Willie could get the broken bolt out of where the blade supports are supposed to go.  Got it.  Then he straightened the blade supports for me as they were bent when we bought the set.  Have had them on the sharpener and it hasn't been a problem.  Guy at WM said I NEED straight supports when setting.  (yup...i can see that)  Got 'em straight.  I'm about to tote setter BACK to my porch when Willie decides to 'zero out' gauge and set the set himself....without ever having read the manual.  I quietly held 'this' and did 'that' while he tinkered....and I seethed.  >:(  I THINK he might have actually done it...maybe.  I'm gonna set HIS blades the way HE has the setter set.  If it ain't right...it ain't my fault!   >:D  and yes...if he indeed got everything set right...even that ticks me off.   ;)

Called mills for timber prices and specs...ate lunch...checking email...and about to go set some blades!  Later dudes!   8)
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« Reply #28 on: June 03, 2011, 04:37:53 AM »

 Hello from Florida.

 Got in last night, and, promptly forgot my password for this site. It's all written in my Internet Book, which sits above the computer, IN CR.  ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

 SS, before you go buying stuff, post on here. First, post a photo of the Sharpener and Setter, so we know exactly what you have.

 I just did a little watching and grinding to mod the cam. It's NOT a big deal. Doesn't require much grinding, to get the wheel to drop further down, to get the Gullet.

 Sounds like you are doing a good job on those blades.  8) 8)

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« Reply #29 on: June 03, 2011, 11:54:27 AM »
Hey found this video that might have some hints about sharpening and setting.  FWIW

http://linnlumber.com/product/blade-sharpener
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« Reply #30 on: June 05, 2011, 07:56:38 AM »
Mental note made:  before spending money...talk to The Guys, first!  lol  Thank you, Harold! 

Got my package Friday...but was too tired to do anything but be excited.  Schedule change at work has me working Fri & Sat mornings:  there at 5:30, open at 6:00, off at 1:30.  Since I AM female, this means I have to get up about 4:00 to fix hair, put on face, etc.  Willie waited till I got home yesterday to install new cam.  Then we fiddled...and fiddled...and fiddled...trying to get adjusted to blades.  It just wasn't coming together like I expected.  Then I remembered that we also got 'hard copy' of manuals in the box, too.  Aha!  Read the directions!  (not one person had better mention my rant on men not reading directions!   :P)  There is a knob adjustment at left, back of grind stone.  We figured out, from manual, this is ONLY to be used with tooth spacing of 5/8".  It's to be backed out on all other blades.  Wow!  It's amazing how things work so well when one reads the directions!  We are now getting tooth face, 80% of gullet, and tooth back!  There is a small space ('bout 1/8") at junction of gullet and tooth back that I'm missing.  This is just gonna have to work.  I'm not squaring the gullet anymore...not taking out tooth hook, either.  Willie started laughing at me.  I didn't realize that I had let out a long sigh when we realized it was doing much better with sharpening. He made me sit on his knee on his bucket and he told me I was such an odd woman:  I'm relieved to be able to sharpen blades decently. 

Also found (in the book) how to prepare the new grind stone with dressing stone.  Good info to have.   ;) 

Steven...adding that video to my list of things to watch when I get to my Mom's or daughter's...they have high speed.  I'm on dial up due to living in Cattle Gap, Egypt.  lol  Tried to sign up with HughesNet.  Installer wanted to charge me $40 for 4' of galvanized pipe to put dish on.  I told him I could go out in the pasture and find a rusty pipe to use...but there was NO way I was gonna pay that much for that little pipe!  He packed up and took himself and his pipe back home!  lol 

Gonna read the setter manual today and work on getting some blades set, after church.  STILL haven't got that done.  Willie's gonna use the WM blades tomorrow.  I'm anxious to see what he thinks of them. 
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Re: Sharpening/Setting procedures
« Reply #31 on: June 05, 2011, 08:19:32 AM »
I had Hughes Net for all of two weeks.  It had all kinds of problems and was down EVERY time a storm went through Houston, TX, their central distribution point.

Cancelled it then they TRIED to get $300 our of me for cancelling.  Didnt work!  I DID NOT initial that part of the contract when they presented it, ON PURPOSE! 
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« Reply #32 on: June 05, 2011, 10:17:32 AM »
Tried to sign up with HughesNet

we had HughesNet for about 2 years what a night mare there box kept not working & they charge $125. trip charge to come out & tell me i need a new one then $160. for new box we went through 3 of these in 2 years. if you downloaded a video then all your bandwith is used up till 6 am the next day
now have verizion & like it & its a lot faster

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« Reply #33 on: June 05, 2011, 01:22:34 PM »

 SS, you and Willie sit down, and run the sharpener as slow as possible, and watch EXACTLY where the cam drops the wheel to it's lowest point. Watch it several times, and, have a piece of chalk or soapstone ready.

 RIGHT at the spot the wheel stops dropping down, is where you need to take off just a tad of the cam, for just a LITTLE ways, to allow the wheel to drop down enough to get that last bit of gullet. That would be where the roller rides on the cam. Take just a LITTLE.

 Then put a broken blade in the machine and run it 1 tooth. If you need a tad more, grind it a LITTLE bit, then run ANOTHER tooth through.

 You will want to "Feather" the grind, so you don't get shoulders on both ends of YOUR grind. DO NOT keep testing on the same tooth.

 That's the mod I made. Only do 1 cam. Keep the other for customers, IF They have the WM Blades.   SOME GUYS WON'T CHANGE THE GULLET.  IF in doubt. let me know, and I can try to explain it better.  ;D ;D

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« Reply #34 on: June 06, 2011, 09:03:57 AM »
I did an informal poll on FB for Hughesnet:  results were mixed but mostly the positives were because they couldn't get anything else.  We are too far out for highspeed through local ph company.  Tech who came here to house to install second ph line told me it might be "awhile" before they could "push" it out this far.  The ISP I'm with is fantastic!!!  Techs are extremely helpful, cost is low, service great...but it's still dial up.  They recently built a tower for high speed in our area, but I'm juuuust out of range.  My Tech friend there says he'll let me know when they "power up".  So...I wait and learn to be patient.   :-\

Harold...guess what I was thinking about as I was going to sleep last night?  How to modify that 9 deg cam.  LOL  Told Willie this morning.  He says I'm pitiful and taking my job way too seriously!   ::)  But...I log in here this morning and there you've posted how to do it!  "Ask...and ye shall receive..."  :)  I have been thinking about the fact that if when I start doing this as business, I will have to have a way to do other brands of blades...not just WM, which it seems this sharpener only does.  Buying another sharpener, that would do varied brands of blades, would be a goal further in the future due to cost. 

Your explanation is very clear, Harold.  Thank you!  Willie is gonna be quite busy today so I might try this one on my own.  Have to sneak down to the mill and 'steal' his hand grinder, though.   ;)  He just "loves" to see me digging around in his truck/tool box.   >:D  Ain't never done anything like this before...but that's usually the story of my life.  I just ask knowledgeable people...then do it. 

Will get pics to post today. 

 

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« Reply #35 on: June 06, 2011, 06:57:38 PM »
'  SS, you change the ° angle, by loosening the bolt on the back of the machine, and tilting the wheel more or lees, depending on what you want. I would stay at 9 or 10°. You drop deeper into the gullet, by taking thin grinds on the cam edge. Has NOTHING to do with angle of tooth.

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« Reply #36 on: June 06, 2011, 09:31:26 PM »
Gotcha now, Harold.  Funny how when you think you're understanding something, you start missing the simple things.   ;)

Got nothing done with blades today.  Catching up on errands and such.  Maybe tomorrow.....
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« Reply #37 on: June 19, 2011, 06:51:32 AM »

 Sure hope SS and Willie haven't gotten on each others nerves, more than usual.  ;D ;D

 Very quiet since the 6th of June.

 Maybe SS is neck deep in sharpening customers blades ???????????

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« Reply #38 on: June 19, 2011, 07:26:56 AM »
I did a bunch of blades yesterday getting ready for this week of cutting and wouldnt you know it, its suppose to rain all week!
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« Reply #39 on: June 19, 2011, 12:17:06 PM »

 BUT, you built a shed over the mill, right ???

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« Reply #40 on: June 19, 2011, 09:12:17 PM »
Yes, however the logs are not under it and the forklift likes to sink in the mud!
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« Reply #41 on: June 21, 2011, 10:31:59 AM »
Ok Willie and SS, we need some updates!  Sure hope some of those storms didnt hammer you guys.
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« Reply #42 on: June 21, 2011, 01:22:38 PM »

 That's why I posted a few days earlier. Just like they turned off the computer or something ??  Was not aware they had bad storms down that way.

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« Reply #43 on: October 12, 2011, 07:18:37 AM »
LOL  updates:

See my intro for internet story.  I'm back now.

Willie and sawmill:  The man has been working his butt off!  lol As you all are familiar with.  A long time friend of Willies made a large order and we made some good money.  I've heard Willie talk of this man for years and now I've fallen in love with him, too!  When Thumper comes to the mill...the whole family drops what their doing and runs to the mill to sit and listen to "Mr. Thumper" (as the kids call him) tell stories.  Willie is cutting some Ash for him now.  VERY pretty lumber!  (slabs will be used in my woodstove when cold weather gets here.  Ash makes a quick, hot fire...great for cookin'!)

Me and sharpening:  Willie was asked just this week if I'm any good at sharpening.  He told the questioner that I sharpen better than the guys at Timberking and he's damn proud of me!   ;D  And all this leads to a new question I have.....

Last evening Willie called me down to the mill (I bought walkie talkies...save ALOT on the running back & forth).  He told me to get on here and ask y'all a question.  Problem:  some of the blades I'm sharpening are good and sharp but are making the sawhead shake back and forth.  Not a violent shake.  Not a small vibration.  Kind of a slow back and forth movement...like every now and then you'd push one side of the saw head while it's traveling down the log.  Maston and I noticed that when it does this it also pulls the motor down.  Willie made a pass down the log he was cutting so I could see.  Log was an Ash.  The cut was nice and smooth; only the sawhead is moving.  We have been thinking I need a new gauge on my setter since the needle sticks occasionally.  (remember I bought sharpener and setter used)  The few times I've set blades, Willie says he thinks I'm putting too much set in the teeth.  The first use after setting makes ripples in lumber.  Second use is great.  By the gauge, I'm putting .22 on the teeth.  

So...with all that, we think we need a new gauge so I can be more sure of my set.  And could y'all remind me about setting blades for soft wood vs. hard wood.  (yeah...I could look it up but I'd rather ask y'all)  

Second question:  On some blades, when I first started setting, I would turn blade wrong side out first, set teeth.  Those teeth would be around .16 - .18, and I would set to .22.  Turn blade right side out and those teeth were measuring .32 - .35.  What up?!  Again, I'm wondering if it's the gauge.  Does set wear more on some teeth than other teeth?  I realize the set has to be consistent.  I would mark these blades so Willie would know they might cut questionably.  

I've come up with a system:  I mark blades with purple nail polish every time I sharp; pink nail polish for every set.  This way I know how many sharps I get out of every blade and I know to set every 2-3 sharps.  Nail polish does not wear off running through logs.  

And...I have incurred only one injury while sharpening.  Yes...y'all told me to where shoes while doing my work...but I can't breathe if my feet are hot.  Was turning a blade wrong side out on the edge of the porch (easier that way), it swung back toward me and a tooth caught me right in the end of my big toe.  Who knew a toe would bleed that much!  There are now little red spots on the porch floor where I kept walking around bleeding all over the place.  Didn't hurt all THAT bad at the time but the next day that sucker knowed it hurt!  lol  And no...I still refuse to wear shoes.  I'm just alot more careful where my toes are in relation to my blades!  

I am training Gracie (9) and Marcus (7) as my apprentices now.  Both are great at cleaning resin off blades for me.  Gracie loves to get my magnifying glass and check gullets for cracks...and she's really good at it, too!  When she finds one you'd think it's a nat'l emergency!  "Whoop!  MOMMA!  I found a crack!!  I found one!!"  She marks with fingernail polish and then checks when I finish sharpening to make sure I got it.  "Yup...you got that one, Mom.  Gooood job!"  LOL  Gracie is starting to watch me sharpen and is asking questions.  I figure by next year, if I'm not home and Willie needs a blade, she ought to be able to get 'er done!  

Latest experiment:  Willie hit some nails with two different blades.  We chunked one but I kept one to see if I could fix it.  On many tooth faces there were metal curls right at the tips.  I sharpened it yesterday and checked it personally and thoroughly for cracks anywhere in the blade.  Willie is supposed to try it first thing this morning to see how it does.  

We have found a local sawmill shop where we can get blades for $15 ea.; $10 if you buy 15 or more.  We're about to make an order to give them a try.  And...I can't remember the brand at this moment.  Everyone else has gone up so much on their prices!  We also found a local shop where we can get the guide roller bearings for $5/ea...instead of $25 from TK!  And they deliver!  I meet the delivery man in Hemphill so no shipping fees!  They last a wee bit longer than TK bearings.  And I prefer to buy locally, anyhow.

Whew...I think that's it! I await instruction, kind sirs.  And by the way, when Willie brags on me, I make sure to give credit to all of you on my skills.  I wouldn't know squat if it were not for y'all!  You're patience and knowledge has been my benefit.  Thanks...again!
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Re: Sharpening/Setting procedures
« Reply #44 on: October 12, 2011, 10:20:18 AM »

 Good to see you back. Thought we might have ran you off, or something similar  ::) ::)

 With sawhead "shaking", does it do it more often than not ??  Could it be something dragging in a track wheel, like a piece of stringy bark or a bearing binding up ??

 The only shaking I have ever had, from blades, was when sawing a terribly hard piece of Tropical wood. The saw would "Chatter" from the teeth grabbing into that hard wood. I would check bearings and try spinning each one by hand, to see if there is any binding going on. Might look down the track for something mashed against the rail the wheels ride on. My big Corley production sawmill would get pieces of bark or a lump of sawdust mashed onto the track, and make the carriage bump bump bump, as it traveled over that stuff.

 I try to keep the area around the mill itself as clean as possible, every day or half day, if needed. makes life so much simpler.

 You mention needing to change out the blade roller guides ??  We are still on the original rollers, and have probably 250,000 bd/ft of sawn lumber run through the mill. We have changed out the bearings a couple of times, though. We pop off the seal on one side, and add a little more grease to the new bearings, but, NOT filling the space. We also use a hose and wash off the mill after each use. We try to keep things well greased, to help keep out water from bearings and such.

 Exactly what part of those rollers wear out ??  How much down pressure is on the blade ??  We try to maintain 1/8" to 3/16 of down pressure. Do you run the blade so it does NOT touch the back flange or bearing, if it has one, while the blade is running but NOT sawing ??  The back of the blade should not touch the flange or backer bearing while not sawing. Also, the blade should ride flat on the roller, not putting excess pressure on the front edge or the back edge of the rollers. You may be "Steering" the blade flat instead of HELPING it stay flat in the cut.

 On the gauge needle sticking, put a little mineral spirits on the shaft of the gauge, where it goes up inside the tube to the gauge. They get sticky and will not travel smoothly. Might take a couple 3 times to do this. Keep pushing the travel part in and let it pop back out, until it runs smoothly. I would not oil it at all, after cleaning it. Gauges hardly ever go bad, but, they will act up from sticky grease and dirt on that shaft.

 Setting, IF the blades get too narrow, the teeth will ride on the rollers and take out the set. I'm not familiar with the mill y'all have, so, I'm going rule of thumb here. Do you have metal wheels and metal where the blade rides on the wheels ?? Do you have "V" belt tires on pulleys that the blade rides on?? Do you have rubber tires, like trailer tires that the blade rides on ??

 Metal wheels have a crown, or higher center than the edges of the wheel. That makes the blade always try to stay on top of that ridge. It MIGHT be the teeth are riding on the metal and mashing the set.

 IF you have "V" belts that the blade rides on, it MIGHT be that the blade is touching the teeth to the edge of the pulley, because the belts are worn down or "SEATED" deeply into the pulley groove. This is common and needs new belts installed.

 Trailer tires should cause NO problem. That's what we built our mill with.

 Over set teeth (032) can be reset back to .022, if you make a tool for banding the tooth. Take a small piece of flat metal, say 1/8" thick, and cut a groove in it to fit the thickness of the tooth. Make it just long enough to bend where the tooth is bent. It should be bent 1.3 of the way from the tip to the bottom of the TOOTH, NOT the gullet. You don't want 2 different settings on a blade. Also, sounds like you get a BURR on the blade, and, that's what scores the log in the first cut. Wears off after that and cuts smooth. Might want to take a VERY fine kiss of the wheel on the last go round of the blades, to take off that burr.

 Also, nails usually are softer than blade teeth. Take that curl of metal off the teeth, and, you can probably keep sawing, IF there are no broken teeth. Some guys save broken teeth blades solely for cutting "Yard" trees. A few teeth missing will still saw good lumber, IF it's sharp and set correctly.

 If you were a production mill, sawing separate types of wood, Pine for several days, oak for several days, etc. it MIGHT be OK to have different blade set ?? We never changed the set sawing from Cypress to Live Oak, and, tropical short pieces of wood, for a Fish carver. We didn't have time OR the ambition to keep blades separated for this. .022 or 22 thousands was all we ever did, except for Heart Pine. That Turpentine smelling, sticky, heavy Pine. Then, we set to .24 or more and used a squirt of Pam every other pass, to keep sap off the blades. Never did live sawing that Heart Pine, for any length of time.

 Did you ever try to sort out the grinding of the cam, to drop deeper into the gullet ??

 Do y'all have much Red Cedar in your area ??
 
 

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Re: Sharpening/Setting procedures
« Reply #45 on: October 12, 2011, 11:37:12 AM »
*sniff sniff*  I've missed you, Harold!   :angel:  LOL

ok...answers in order of asking:

No...y'all couldn't run me off with a big stick!

Saw head shaking has, apparently, just started, since this is the first he's told me about it.  But, he says it has stopped this morning with a change of blade.  Got to be something about that blade.  Willie religiously cleans the mill every evening when he's finished.  Several times during the day he cleans out sawdust from inside "cabinet" where the blade runs.  We have a TK 1220 which has the big wheels and a 'V' belt drive.  Current belt is new ('bout a mth old).  (note to self...again: start maintenance log) 

Bearings: Watched Willie grease a bearing just yesterday.  He packed that sucker full!  lol  I do remember reading in something, somewhere that you're not supposed to fill it full...and was going to say something...but...a wife learns there are times to speak and then times to hush.  "hush" felt right yesterday.  ;)  The original bearings lasted almost a year.  TK tech told me that this is common: original bearings last a long time, changed bearings go like hot-cakes.  This makes no sense to me and I figure he was shooting "the poor, ignorant" woman a line in hopes of selling her alot of bearings.  (btw...I HATE that attitude!)  How the blade is riding on the bearing is something I'll have to ask Willie about and go look for myself. 

Sticky gauge:  I actually thought about putting W-D 40 on the shaft...but thought better of it.  I figure this is supposed to be a fairly sensitive piece of equipment which I don't totally understand so leaving it be was the best thing I could think of.  And the part that I can actually SEE sticking is actually the needle on the face of the gauge.  It looks like the tip is veeeerrry slightly bent and catches on the face of the gauge.  I keep a small metal rod handy to lightly tap on the side to unstick and double check the reading.  I have noticed the more I use it the less I have to 'tap'.  Will definitely get the mineral spirits. 

Over set:  the setter came with a reset tool...but I didn't get that when I purchased it.  WM sales rep asked if I wanted one but I declined.  Might rethink that now.  Or making one sounds simple enough, too. 

Nails: We were using a metal detector on yard logs.  It needs new batteries and someone keeps forgetting to buy them.  Wouldn't know who that is, though.  ::)  Willie came in earlier and said he wasn't going to try that "fixed" blade in the Ash.  Too 'purdy' a tree to mess up the lumber. 

Last night I suggested different sets/profiles of blades for different types of wood and Willie said that was too much bother for him.  We mostly mill pine, with the occasional rich lightered log mixed in there.  We have one occasional customer who brings mostly oak.  WHEN I set...I'm doing about .22".  Is that good enough?  Remind me again what sets are good for what wood, please.

We've actually been doing a pretty good bit of Cedar with some real Red Cedar.  Smells good but Willie has found that the dust makes him sneeze, gag and cough for days!  Willie's cousin brought down several med. sz. logs to be milled for his "super-dooper" BBQ pit: on a trailer complete with seating area, roof, water heating capabilities, etc, etc, etc.  The cedar we milled is for tables and seating, picnic style.  It's BEE-U-TEE-FUL!  And he's only asking $12 K for it.  :o  I'll see if I can get pics of it to share. 

Let me get me-self down to the mill.  The boys just came in, which means that Poppa isn't doing anything.  It's gotten to where the only time we get to talk alone is at the sawmill.  lol  Is that sad?...or good?   :-\  Will pass along all this good info and get back to ya probably in the morning. 
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Re: Sharpening/Setting procedures
« Reply #46 on: October 12, 2011, 03:28:32 PM »

 WD40 will do. Just sparingly. I really doubt the needle is hitting the face, unless that setter took a drop on a concrete floor and loosened the needle, but, I doubt that, also.

 If you buy electric motor bearings, they will last a long time. It's getting hard to buy stuff not made cheaply in China.

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Re: Sharpening/Setting procedures
« Reply #47 on: October 13, 2011, 07:03:13 AM »
The bearings we are buying are made in China.  The less expensive bearings are made in America...and lasted even less time than the China ones.  Willie was all about buying American but they didn't last. 

And...I haven't had a chance to read your post on bearings to Willie.  Waiting for him now.  I tried to relay the info yesterday but got all confused.  lol  That's what happens when I 'bout half understand what I'm talking about. 

Will try some WD40 this morning...ain't gonna be able to order new gauge for another couple weeks.  Willie has decided that since I mentioned...years ago...that I wanted to learn to weld, he's gonna buy an old but good welding machine from one of his cousins...for me!  "This one will be alot easier for you to learn on."  Over the past 22 years I've learned I have to be careful what I say around my husband.   ;)  Of course, I also know he's gonna enjoy it, too.  lol  And, our 14 yr old daughter has done a little welding with some of the guys who come up here to weld for Willie.  They say she's quite good!  I reckon it will be a family experience!
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Re: Sharpening/Setting procedures
« Reply #48 on: October 13, 2011, 08:30:01 AM »

 Be SURE to buy Electric MOTOR grade bearings. No matter if they come from Germany or Japan.

 Unfortunately, made in the USA only refers to crooked Politicians, these days.  ::) ::) ::)

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« Reply #49 on: February 18, 2012, 11:47:18 AM »
Hello my friends!
I had to re-register to get in and thought it would NEVER go through.  Been busy with all kinds of stuff!  (for once I'm too pressed for time to go into detail...you'll just have to wonder.  tee hee) 

Problem: ordered blades from new, local company.  Been using 3/4 teeth...they only had 7/8 teeth when I ordered.  I'm just getting around to sharpening them for the first time.  Getting the tooth front and all the tooth back, no gullet.  Lady at the blade shop says I won't be able to sharpen 7/8 with this cam.  Should I change to my old cam?  I've had others tell me "this" is not possible and you guys always come up with instruction to the contrary.  I'm gonna go piddle with this one blade I'm on and wait for an answer.  Willie's down to his last blade and I have to get one sharp for him.  Answer quick!   ;)
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